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| 05:08:50 | Belxjander | zerohero: hey.. what include file pathing does the compilers you built use ? |
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| 05:18:35 | MrBot | [hnl_dk] hnl_dk |
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| 05:46:23 | Ami603[w0rK] | morning |
| 05:48:19 | hnl_dk | morning ;-) |
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| 08:28:09 | afxgroup | hi |
| 08:29:09 | hnl_dk | hi ;-) |
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| 12:12:44 | zerohero | anyone awake? |
| 12:12:54 | hnl_dk | no (zZz) |
| 12:12:59 | zerohero | hehe |
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| 12:13:16 | zerohero | i'm feeling a bit thick today |
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| 12:13:22 | spotUP | hi! |
| 12:13:27 | zerohero | bah ? uff : pfft; |
| 12:13:32 | zerohero | how does that work again? |
| 12:13:39 | hnl_dk[bot] | [spotUP] welcome spotUP |
| 12:13:44 | zerohero | hi spotUP |
| 12:14:32 | spotUP | a short question... i've had this prob a couple of times, when trying to compile stuff, they ask for memory.h ... which memory.h should i point to? or rather... how do i solve this? :) |
| 12:14:46 | spotUP | hnl! zerohero! |
| 12:15:00 | zerohero | spotUP: it's a clib2 or newlib include |
| 12:15:08 | spotUP | aha |
| 12:15:09 | zerohero | not sure it's there tho ;) |
| 12:15:18 | spotUP | humm.. |
| 12:15:33 | spotUP | maybe it's as simple as compiling with newlib.. heh gotta try that =) |
| 12:16:08 | zerohero | nope |
| 12:16:16 | zerohero | no memory.h in either clib2 or newlib |
| 12:16:50 | hnl_dk[bot] | it is not part of any standard as far as I know |
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| 12:18:09 | spotUP | huuh? it isn't? i've stumbled upon many things that wants memory.h ... |
| 12:18:24 | hnl_dk | ah, it is a BSD thing |
| 12:18:44 | hnl_dk | spotUP: http://gobsd.com/code/dragonfly/include/memory.h |
| 12:19:10 | spotUP | the one i am trying to compile now is this one.. it's a VERY simple program with a very simple makefile.. and it appearantly compiles on MOS ... http://www.aminet.net/misc/emu/cas_tools-mos.lha ... |
| 12:20:05 | spotUP | hnl_dk, hmm... |
| 12:20:15 | hnl_dk | ixemul is the C library from an old netBSD + some netBSD kernel functions |
| 12:20:34 | spotUP | aha.. do they have ixemul on mos? |
| 12:20:43 | hnl_dk | spotUP: same for openbsd - http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/include/memory.h?rev=1.3&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup |
| 12:20:52 | hnl_dk | yes, they use ixemul |
| 12:21:16 | hnl_dk | spotUP: so just ifdef it and point to string.h for OS4 |
| 12:21:39 | spotUP | aha ... talking about ixemul, there was talks about an os4 version of ixemul.. does anyone know the status? |
| 12:21:46 | spotUP | hnl, ok =) will try! |
| 12:22:04 | hnl_dk | spotUP: I see no reason for IXemul on OS4 |
| 12:24:07 | spotUP | ok. i thought it would make things easier. but i guess i was wrong. |
| 12:27:32 | hnl_dk | it could make some things more easy... but why not implement more functions, instead of porting an old C library |
| 12:28:06 | spotUP | true true. |
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| 12:30:09 | hnl_dk | plus the license of "our" libraries are more friendly |
| 12:33:27 | spotUP | aha. |
| 12:34:21 | spotUP | damn, this time i have to actually learn some 'coding' :) trying to read up on ifdef now... :) |
| 12:34:46 | hnl_dk | ;-) |
| 12:34:55 | hnl_dk | #ifndef __amigaos4__ |
| 12:35:14 | hnl_dk | #include <memory.h> |
| 12:35:18 | hnl_dk | #else |
| 12:35:27 | hnl_dk | #include <string.h> |
| 12:35:29 | hnl_dk | #endif |
| 12:35:34 | hnl_dk | ;-) |
| 12:37:10 | spotUP | so.. ifndef__amigaos4___ ... is __amigaos4__ fetched from the aos4 version of gcc? or how does it know that i am compiling for/under aos4? |
| 12:37:16 | spotUP | thanx btw! |
| 12:38:45 | hnl_dk | yes, it is buildin... np |
| 12:39:48 | spotUP | ok good! :) i've been wondering that for a while... :) |
| 12:40:02 | hnl_dk | ;-) |
| 12:40:23 | spotUP | kind of dumb to call it amigaos4 that means all sources will have to be changed when we have amigaos5 ;) |
| 12:40:39 | spotUP | amigaosng would be better :) |
| 12:41:08 | hnl_dk | ;-) |
| 12:41:48 | hnl_dk | maybe we are going to get amigaos 4.9999999999999 ... I have no idea about the license |
| 12:42:08 | spotUP | ok... i don't think strings.h is 100% compatible to memory.h (well, hahah, that's how i interpret it with my huuuuuuge coding knowledge ;) |
| 12:42:34 | spotUP | yea, i also thought about that amigaos 4.999... that's a solution. :) |
| 12:42:36 | hnl_dk | spotUP: I sad string.h not strings.h |
| 12:42:49 | spotUP | oh. |
| 12:42:50 | spotUP | =) |
| 12:42:52 | spotUP | sorry. |
| 12:43:49 | hnl_dk | memory.h only tries to include string.h ... at least on uptodate versions of the BSD c library... so You should include string.h instead if memory.h |
| 12:44:00 | spotUP | i already had string.h included (the source had it from the start) .. but.. i get a weird error, but i will try to look at it before bothering everyone with it.. :) |
| 12:44:27 | hnl_dk | ok, then just do: |
| 12:44:28 | hnl_dk | #ifndef __amigaos4__ |
| 12:44:33 | hnl_dk | #include <memory.h> |
| 12:44:37 | hnl_dk | #endif |
| 12:44:48 | hnl_dk | instead of what I wrote before |
| 12:45:07 | spotUP | makes sense. |
| 12:45:20 | spotUP | ifNdef means if NOT defined i guess? |
| 12:45:28 | hnl_dk | yes :-) |
| 12:46:28 | hnl_dk | I have no idea if memory.h of ixemul is "more advanced", as it IIRC is based on a very old version... |
| 12:47:07 | spotUP | this looks very weird to me; |
| 12:47:08 | spotUP | gcc wav2cas.c -o wav2cas |
| 12:47:09 | spotUP | : undefined reference to `atof' |
| 12:47:09 | spotUP | make: *** [wav2cas] Error 1 |
| 12:47:17 | spotUP | oop |
| 12:47:21 | spotUP | missed some lines. |
| 12:47:44 | spotUP | gcc wav2cas.c -o wav2cas |
| 12:47:44 | spotUP | : undefined reference to `atof' |
| 12:47:44 | spotUP | make: *** [wav2cas] Error 1 |
| 12:47:49 | spotUP | gaa... |
| 12:48:03 | spotUP | " gcc wav2cas.c -o wav2cas |
| 12:48:03 | spotUP | " /tmp/ccjCAjQv.o(.text+0x11ac): In function `main': |
| 12:48:03 | spotUP | " : undefined reference to `atof' |
| 12:48:03 | spotUP | " make: *** [wav2cas] Error 1 |
| 12:48:49 | spotUP | here's the line.. |
| 12:48:50 | spotUP | case 'w': window=atof(argv[++i]); j=-1; break; |
| 12:48:54 | hnl_dk | is stdlib.h included in the sourcecode? |
| 12:49:06 | hnl_dk | atof is part of stdlib.h |
| 12:49:59 | spotUP | yes it's included. #include <stdlib.h> ... why do people use <blah.h> sometimes and sometimes "blah.h" ? |
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| 12:50:16 | Ami603 | re |
| 12:50:20 | spotUP | to! |
| 12:50:22 | spotUP | yo! |
| 12:50:55 | hnl_dk | "" is when it is normaly part of your sourcecode... <> when it is an "official" includefile |
| 12:51:25 | spotUP | hnl, aha, that makes sense. |
| 12:51:41 | Ami603 | a better answer might be that "" points to your current drawer and <> to the system includes drawer? |
| 12:52:04 | hnl_dk | Ami603: yes |
| 12:52:15 | spotUP | =) |
| 12:54:03 | hnl_dk | just to "point it out"... you are ofcourse still able to include include files from another directory, f.example "foo/bar.h" |
| 12:54:37 | spotUP | aha ok |
| 12:55:02 | spotUP | hmm.. one of the binaries are compiled now.. it didn't complain. good. |
| 12:55:21 | hnl_dk | spotUP: for atof you need to include libm.a : -lm |
| 12:55:51 | spotUP | 2 binaries. wee!.. |
| 12:56:20 | spotUP | hnl, ok, i will try. how did you find that out? (so i can look up such things by myself in the future) |
| 12:56:34 | hnl_dk | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/clib2/library/GNUmakefile.os4?rev=1.93&view=auto |
| 12:57:02 | hnl_dk | that is ofcourse changing when a new version is uploaded |
| 12:57:19 | hnl_dk | you could use: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/clib2/library/GNUmakefile.os4 |
| 12:57:41 | hnl_dk | and click on view or download |
| 12:59:09 | spotUP | hmm... |
| 12:59:50 | hnl_dk | try to search for the "missing" function |
| 13:00:02 | Ami603 | cya later guys |
| 13:00:11 | spotUP | later ami! |
| 13:00:26 | hnl_dk | and look up... then you can read: # All objects files which make up libm.a |
| 13:03:37 | spotUP | yepp! |
| 13:03:43 | spotUP | i'll bookmark that page. |
| 13:05:00 | spotUP | strange. i still get the same error when linking with -lm |
| 13:05:18 | spotUP | aah! |
| 13:05:24 | spotUP | it works! |
| 13:05:27 | hnl_dk | how did You link with it |
| 13:05:28 | hnl_dk | ok |
| 13:05:46 | spotUP | i had to type -lm after wav2cas.c ... |
| 13:06:11 | hnl_dk | ok, are you compiling manually? |
| 13:06:13 | spotUP | hehe i'll mention you as my mentor in the readme on this one, is that ok? :) |
| 13:06:28 | spotUP | i compiled that file manually, i will try to fix the makefile now. |
| 13:06:57 | hnl_dk | ;-) |
| 13:07:01 | hnl_dk | np |
| 13:07:06 | hnl_dk | ok |
| 13:07:39 | spotUP | aaah :) so, we did something useful today then. :) feels good. (i am unemployed ;) |
| 13:08:11 | hnl_dk | spotUP: same here ;-) |
| 13:08:25 | hnl_dk | or :-( |
| 13:09:33 | spotUP | hehe depends on the day. sometimes i really enjoy being unemployed, i have all the time in the world to toy around with my amiga.. but.. other days... when the bills are stacking up... |
| 13:10:11 | spotUP | have you seen olle lately? i am really looking forward to his port of upx, the file cruncher. but i haven't heard from him since a looong time. |
| 13:10:35 | hnl_dk | have not seen him |
| 13:10:55 | hnl_dk | I am getting lazy :-( |
| 13:12:08 | | -!- * hnl_dk needs to go shopping |
| 13:12:17 | hnl_dk | see you later |
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| 13:12:33 | spotUP | bye hnl! and thanx! |
| 13:12:41 | hnl_dk[shopping] | bye... np |
| 13:12:48 | spotUP | daaamn makefile.. |
| 13:12:59 | hnl_dk[shopping] | what is wrong with it? |
| 13:13:06 | spotUP | it killed all files when i type make clean.. hahah ok i'll start over... :) |
| 13:13:27 | hnl_dk[shopping] | not funny :-( |
| 13:13:32 | hnl_dk[shopping] | all the files? |
| 13:13:43 | hnl_dk[shopping] | as also the sourcecode? |
| 13:17:54 | spotUP | yes |
| 13:19:16 | hnl_dk[shopping] | have seen that... am at the moment trying to fix it |
| 13:19:31 | hnl_dk[shopping] | need to go now... will be back later |
| 13:21:19 | spotUP | see you later! |
| 13:27:37 | spotUP | aha ok! |
| 13:27:47 | spotUP | woops |
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| 14:36:16 | itix | hi |
| 14:57:27 | zerohero | hello itix |
| 14:57:45 | zerohero | <-- 20 mins lag it seems ;) |
| 14:57:59 | itix | ;D |
| 14:58:02 | itix | hi zero |
| 14:59:03 | zerohero | i just had to revert all coding done today :P |
| 14:59:16 | zerohero | it didn't work they way i wanted it |
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| 15:03:22 | zerohero | #6 |
| 15:03:27 | number6 | z |
| 15:09:55 | itix | you mean they didnt work at all? ;) |
| 15:13:08 | zerohero | haha |
| 15:13:35 | zerohero | actually they crashed, might still be doable, but we'll see :) |
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| 15:27:52 | afxgroup | yawn.. |
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| 15:44:47 | spotUP | tjo! |
| 15:47:12 | afxgroup | hello Spot |
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| 15:56:11 | spotUP | hi afx! what's up?... |
| 15:56:23 | spotUP | wee! i am uploading binaries to the depot! =) |
| 15:57:50 | afxgroup | spotUP: what's up?? |
| 15:58:27 | spotUP | afxgroup, what are you doing i meant. |
| 15:59:10 | afxgroup | ah. nothing of important |
| 16:00:33 | spotUP | gotta do that sometimes too.. :) |
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| 18:13:21 | itix | re |
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| 19:39:09 | Ami603[dinner] | bbl |
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| 21:36:02 | itix | n8 |
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| 21:39:51 | zerohero | evening |
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| 22:27:29 | afxgroup | nite all |
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| 23:06:16 | Varthall | hey |
| 23:07:51 | Varthall | is there any switch in gcc to force it to search for a library only in a path we define, ignoring the ones that are under f.e. SDK:local/clib2/lib/ ? |
| 23:12:56 | wegster | Varthall: try -nostdinc ? |
| 23:13:20 | Varthall | doesn't seem to be working |
| 23:13:36 | Varthall | my line is as follows: |
| 23:14:11 | Varthall | gcc -o luac luac.o print.o lopcodes.o -L../../lib -llua -llualib -lm |
| 23:14:34 | Varthall | even if the correct path for lua and lualib is set with -L |
| 23:14:45 | wegster | bear in mind nostdinc IF it works on gcc 4.X still needs include paths specified |
| 23:14:55 | wegster | -L = lib path, not include path ;-) |
| 23:14:55 | Varthall | (and ld searches for libraries first in any directories |
| 23:14:55 | Varthall | specified by the -L options and then in the standard directories. |
| 23:14:56 | Varthall | ld searches for libraries first in any directories |
| 23:14:56 | Varthall | specified by the -L options and then in the standard directories. |
| 23:15:07 | Varthall | whoops double paste |
| 23:15:10 | wegster | doh, I'm a retard, you DID say libs |
| 23:15:17 | Varthall | ye |
| 23:16:16 | Varthall | there's a -nostdlib switch, but it seems to be too extreme, even more linking errors |
| 23:16:41 | Varthall | -L should haave priority over standard paths, but it doesn't |
| 23:17:26 | wegster | yeah, you'd have to determine full 'normal' lib search path |
| 23:17:42 | wegster | then feed those in via -L along with your others as to 'only what's required...I think |
| 23:18:02 | wegster | why do you want to override? |
| 23:18:17 | wegster | is there really a compiled lua in the sdk? |
| 23:18:25 | Varthall | not |
| 23:18:25 | wegster | Varthall: ? |
| 23:18:34 | Varthall | I have added the one from os4depot |
| 23:19:03 | Varthall | but it is older than the one required by the program using it |
| 23:19:19 | wegster | so trying to build your own lua? |
| 23:19:19 | Blacky_Stardust | you can always link with the .a first by naming it in your command-line |
| 23:19:34 | Varthall | it has the entire lua included in the sources |
| 23:19:57 | wegster | yeah that's true too re .a's |
| 23:20:06 | Blacky_Stardust | then the linker is forced to link to the .a file 1st and any unresolved things to the standard libs |
| 23:20:44 | Varthall | Blacky_Stardust: hmm, what do you mean with "naming the .a" ? |
| 23:21:24 | Varthall | Blacky_Stardust: the command line already includes the -llua and -llualib |
| 23:21:31 | Blacky_Stardust | for example, I have libfoo.a in my standard lib path, but I wanna link to my own libfoo.a, which is in the current directory : |
| 23:21:44 | Blacky_Stardust | gcc -o foo libfoo.a -lblabla ..... |
| 23:22:12 | Varthall | aha+ |
| 23:22:23 | Varthall | trying it |
| 23:22:28 | Blacky_Stardust | even though there is a libfoo.a in your standard path the linker will use the named libfoo.a 1st |
| 23:23:07 | Blacky_Stardust | and you can leave out the -lfoo ofcource, since it won't need that |
| 23:23:57 | Varthall | thanks, that worked! |
| 23:24:10 | Blacky_Stardust | yw |
| 23:24:21 | Varthall | going to modify the makefile now |
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| 23:36:28 | number6 | Evening Mr. ssolie |
| 23:37:30 | ssolie | greetings |
| 23:38:06 | ssolie | did you see the AmiWest announcement? |
| 23:43:11 | number6 | Yes I did. |
| 23:43:18 | ssolie | still no go for you? |
| 23:43:54 | number6 | I don't discount any possibilities at this point. |
| 23:44:43 | ssolie | that's good :) |
| 23:45:40 | zerohero | where is amiwest held? |
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| 23:47:38 | ssolie | zerohero: Sacramento |
| 23:48:26 | zerohero | ssolie: ok |
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