Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-04-10

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08:55:46 jahc wav_file = fopen("ram:phonejahc_audiobuffer.wav","w+b");
08:55:47 jahc <-- whats wrong with that line?
08:56:02 jahc its failing on gcc 2.9.3 on os3.x
08:59:02 zerohero what's the error?
09:00:14 jahc nevermind, I just changed it to "wb".. it saves now
09:00:27 zerohero yeah, was going to suggest that :)
09:00:30 jahc damn it, my buffers are different for some reason
09:01:24 jahc I recorded audio to a buffer, sent that buffer to my other machine, saved as wav on both machines, and they're different
09:01:30 jahc 5.data1:downloads> md5sum 1.wav
09:01:30 jahc 6604eae0a267c566c6623348e9632ce9 1.wav
09:01:30 jahc 5.data1:downloads> md5sum 2.wav
09:01:30 jahc 97914c627211ca9df9e8fe662dcf2abc 2.wav
09:03:38 zerohero endianness?
09:06:12 jahc not a factor I dont think
09:10:10 jahc I'm recording sound, storing it in an array.. then sending it across a network to another machine, and then its stored in the buffer there too.... so those two buffers should be identical when I save them
09:10:26 jahc but they're not.l
09:24:21 jahc for(sent_amount=0,count=playback_buffer_size; count>0; count-=sent_amount)
09:24:22 jahc {
09:24:22 jahc sent_amount=send(dcc_socket, (i_in)playback_buffer, count, 0);
09:24:22 jahc if(sent_amount==-1) sent_amount=0; else
09:24:22 jahc printf("sent %i bytes, %i left\n",sent_amount,count);
09:24:22 jahc }
09:24:45 jahc that should be fine, right? go into an endless loop until I've finished sending the playback buffer
09:29:25 zerohero afaik, but i'm far from a socket programmer
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16:17:16 nicomen http://utilitybase.com/article/Public+AmigaOS4.0+SDK+51.22+available+for+download
16:34:49 nicomen nicomen has changed the topic to: Amiga development | clib2 1.199 | Use http://utilitybase.com/paste for huge pastings | http://utilitybase.com/article/Public+AmigaOS4.0+SDK \o/
16:36:10 zerohero heh
16:36:17 zerohero it's not very fast atm :)
16:37:04 nicomen figures
18:11:39 Orgin Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080.
18:11:49 Orgin I'll wait a few days.
18:12:28 nicomen not opera either
18:12:33 nicomen anyone have downloaded it already?
18:12:41 nicomen does it say anything about redistribution?
18:12:58 Orgin I pasted the error message firefox put up. It included "Firefox can't .." etc
18:13:19 nicomen it's just the server not answering
18:13:32 Orgin Just explaining.
18:15:46 nicomen well, the server doesn't accept connections is probably more informative than my browser x prints "foo" specially if one uses internet explorer ;)
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18:22:02 spotUP yo!
18:22:15 nicomen yo ;)
18:22:17 spotUP gaaah... the new sdk is out, and hyperions server is down...
18:22:24 spotUP does anyone have it?
18:24:37 spotUP uh.. the sdk is free for all, didn'
18:24:49 spotUP din't see that until now.. so that's why the server is clogged..
18:25:22 nicomen yeah, if anyone has it, please state what the license says
18:26:03 spotUP in the forum at aw enthilza says it
18:26:09 spotUP it's free for all...
18:26:32 nicomen free for all != everybody is allowed to distribute it
18:26:37 spotUP so, could anyone dcc me please? or, no-one managed to get it before the server started acting up?
18:37:46 zerohero i had 63% when it gave up on me
18:41:38 spotUP huh... so it seems no-one has managed to dl it... :) weird..
18:44:55 zerohero yeah, all 7 of us ;)
18:46:03 spotUP hehe
18:46:50 zerohero nicomen: fix that mirror now ;)
18:47:09 nicomen I don't have the sdk
18:47:25 zerohero can't you do some black magic to fix that? ;)
18:47:27 Orgin nicomen: No I just wanted to explain that none of the text was my writing and that it was all an outprint from firefox. I was not I that said "Firefox can't .." etc, it was firefox itself.
18:47:33 spotUP hyperions server is really great.. :)
18:47:39 nicomen Orgin: ok
18:47:46 nicomen spotUP: they b0rk everytime people use it
18:47:56 spotUP yea
18:48:09 zerohero frustrating
18:48:24 nicomen indeed
18:48:25 zerohero i think they didn't want to release the sdk public anyway ;D
18:48:29 nicomen me too
18:48:38 nicomen their communication skills aren't exactly perfect
18:48:51 Orgin I simply forgot to add "'s
18:48:59 nicomen Orgin: it's ok! ;)
18:49:01 spotUP hah
18:49:24 nicomen zerohero: if I knew this I'd suggest that we made an easy to install cross compiler suite thing
18:49:46 zerohero nicomen: am i allowed to do that now?
18:49:47 Orgin And still no reply from drHirudo.
18:50:00 zerohero nicomen: what about redistribution and such?
18:50:36 nicomen zerohero: we'd just put it as a download on the adtools project?
18:50:47 nicomen with a script that downloads it from hype server
18:51:00 nicomen or packaged it if allowed
18:51:08 zerohero nicomen: sounds good
18:51:31 zerohero nicomen: you'd have to do the scripting tho ;)
18:51:57 nicomen np
18:53:46 zerohero but we should really be allowed to redistribute it to make it good, since we don't need everything in the sdk for cross-compilers
18:54:07 zerohero and unpack lha, then unpack more lha's isn't the best way, imo
18:54:26 zerohero best way it could be done
18:54:28 nicomen bah, not that big an issue
18:55:15 zerohero not really, but dl'ing 153mb is :)
18:55:27 zerohero especially now :P
18:55:36 nicomen would use the nocontrib one of course
18:55:42 nicomen hehe, true
18:55:58 nicomen would think they would learn and at least set up a torrent if they don't trut mirroring
18:56:01 nicomen trust
18:56:08 Orgin Anyone here who knows a "drHirudo" ?
18:56:09 nicomen would learn by now
18:56:22 nicomen Orgin: talked to him before, don't know him
18:57:12 spotUP i've helped drhirudo out with a thing and mailed a bit with him, why?
18:58:05 Orgin He doesn't reply to emails from os4depot about a file of his. Someone is trying to replace his file.
18:58:50 spotUP huh... what file?
18:58:54 spotUP his emu?
18:59:20 Orgin http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=game/adventure/adv770.lha
19:00:23 spotUP Orgin, write him a pm at amigaworld, he'll probably reply there.
19:00:33 spotUP we communicated via pm's at aw, and via irc.
19:00:39 Orgin I do not have an aw account ;)
19:00:58 nicomen huh?
19:00:59 Orgin Could you tell him to check his email?
19:01:03 nicomen radical
19:01:25 spotUP ok i will... but... gimme the email addy you are using and i'll ask him if it's still valid.
19:01:59 spotUP oh.. that sounds like a REALLY old one.. :)
19:03:01 Orgin ANyway, thanks for helping.
19:03:02 spotUP huh replied to a private mess there... :) didn't notice.
19:03:07 spotUP writing him now.
19:03:18 Orgin Have to get some sleep here. Later folks.
19:03:25 spotUP later orgin.
19:04:03 nicomen bye
19:04:44 spotUP so... what's up nico?
19:04:54 nicomen spotUP: the sky ;)
19:05:00 nicomen preparing for the gathering
19:06:29 spotUP oh... a release lined up maybe?... and.. the gathering, why, when there's breakpoint? ...where all amy dudes hang out. it's closer to the gathering for you i guess, but that no excuse, the real data axxion is at bp :)
19:07:01 nicomen because it's cheaper, and because it's not so bad anymore and because I go there with the job ;9
19:07:22 spotUP heh :) is opera sponsoring or something?
19:07:31 nicomen yup
19:08:06 spotUP uhum. cool. :) btw, that fix for that SMW compile you gave me didn't work.
19:08:12 spotUP it complains now.. :P
19:09:52 spotUP and, nico, btw, i managed to compile my first SDL thingie, did i say that? *proud* all by myself to, and i changed mp3 player too ... elite.
19:10:14 spotUP i just need someone to betatest it before i upload it, care to give it a go?
19:10:38 nicomen nice ;)
19:10:48 spotUP yea! :)
19:10:52 nicomen that would mean that i need to get up from bed and turn on the amiga ;9
19:11:04 spotUP aha, nevermind then. no hurry.
19:11:15 nicomen use #amigaworld for betatesters ;D
19:12:11 spotUP i am using mpega to play the tune, but when you start mpega, you have to specify what ahi mode to use, and i bet they aren't the same on all machines, how do i tell it to just use channel 1 and be happy with it?
19:12:33 spotUP it's not possible with mpega or?..
19:13:04 spotUP another thing i could do, would be to let the requester pop up, but the demo starts before you have made a selection... that's not so good.. :)
19:14:18 spotUP hard questions i bet, when you're not on the amiga..
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19:25:34 nicomen is it mpega that initiates ahi?
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19:37:34 afxgroup hi
19:40:35 nicomen hi
19:42:39 afxgroup Nicolas..
19:42:49 afxgroup please find me a job in Norway..
19:47:45 nicomen http://opera.com/jobs
19:47:50 nicomen tell them I sent you ;)
19:48:04 nicomen let me fix your typos before you send the letter ;)
19:52:35 afxgroup but only at Opera?? no more jobs? and which kind of contract is?
19:54:43 nicomen contract?
19:54:58 nicomen full-time developer of some sort if you are qualified ;)
19:55:06 nicomen there are lots of companies hiring
19:56:24 afxgroup i can prepare a letter for u.. which kind of experience must write into the letter? Windows' one too?? ;)
19:56:34 nicomen sure
19:56:57 nicomen check the page I gave you, they have some descriptions too
19:57:03 afxgroup checking
19:57:33 afxgroup Every Friday afternoon we start the weekend with "a night at the Opera" where we all meet in the cantina for a chat, drink, and snacks?
19:57:38 afxgroup LOL..
20:00:14 afxgroup You must also have completed compulsory Norwegian lessons
20:00:17 afxgroup mmm...
20:00:23 nicomen don't worry
20:00:38 nicomen they have lessons, but I know several that suck at norwegian anyway
20:00:44 nicomen and all speaking is done in english anyway
20:00:50 nicomen and you catch up after a while
20:01:04 nicomen are you thinking of moving because of the results of the vote?
20:01:32 afxgroup yep.. but not only for this.. you know
20:01:35 nicomen if you like open source I got a job at http://freecode.no earlier this year, but had to decline it
20:01:48 nicomen as in, you should be able to get one too ;)
20:03:01 afxgroup but is more simply for you since you are already there...
20:03:57 nicomen well, I just work part time for them
20:04:01 nicomen I'm in Trondheim
20:04:19 nicomen you have Yahoo,Sun and Google here though if you want to work in other big companies ;)
20:04:46 afxgroup yes i know.. it will be great.. :(
20:18:07 zerohero how annoying
20:18:16 zerohero still down :(
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20:48:13 AMiGR lo
20:48:25 zerohero evening
20:50:47 nicomen hi
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21:02:21 afxgroup afxgroup rulez!
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21:03:51 AMiGR zerohero: I might build some MacOS>OS4&MOS&AROS cross compilers, when I get the time, I'll probably need your help :-P
21:05:12 zerohero AMiGR: that's great, i'll host them for you :)
21:06:49 zerohero bah
21:06:56 zerohero i won't get the sdk tonight :(
21:07:02 afxgroup zerohero: have u fixed the problem with c++ and cross compilers?
21:07:17 zerohero afxgroup: no, i just remembered the other day :(
21:07:28   -!- * afxgroup slap zerohero
21:07:34   -!- * zerohero bows in shame
21:07:53 afxgroup ;)
21:07:56 zerohero hehe
21:08:14 zerohero afxgroup: btw, you know there's gcc 4.0.3 on my site now ;)
21:08:37 afxgroup i'm waiting for 4.2.0
21:08:40 afxgroup :P
21:08:46 zerohero hehe
21:09:04 zerohero i'd settle for the 4.1.0 release that's not in the svn yet :)
21:10:34 afxgroup http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/
21:11:03 zerohero but there's no os4 support in that one :)
21:11:20 afxgroup ah understand
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21:16:34 Ami603[zZz] n8
21:16:45 afxgroup nite ;)
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22:29:42 afxgroup nite all. Nite Varthall
22:29:51 Varthall ehi
22:29:56 Varthall sei riuscito a scaricare
22:29:59 Varthall l'sdk?
22:30:05 afxgroup no. ce l'avevo già.. :P
22:30:09 Varthall prrr :)
22:30:20 Varthall il sito di hyp e' down :(
22:30:28 afxgroup troppe connessioni..
22:30:32 Varthall vedremo domani allora
22:30:37 afxgroup hanno un commodore 64 come webserver
22:30:45 Varthall possibile
22:30:53 afxgroup ;) buona notte
22:30:57 Varthall notte!
22:31:00 afxgroup ciauz
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23:11:15 AMiGR wegster: funny but why the hell does everyone that bashes C post examples that make perfect sense if you read them logically as "obscure syntax" examples, while there are things that ARE confusing indeed? :_P
23:11:16 AMiGR :-P
23:12:00 wegster AMiGR: bah, not a single one said, 'ok, I'll try python' (or lua) that's complaining, so..?
23:12:24 AMiGR ...
23:12:53 nicomen many times all the "nice" languages like Java and Python are harder to read because of more space to do stuff
23:12:59 nicomen ie. more text to parse for eye
23:13:18 AMiGR I mean, int (*f(int a, int b))(int c, int d); ? Fucks sake, read this *mathematically*
23:13:22 wegster nicomen: what, as in more descriptive func/method names?
23:13:29 nicomen for instance
23:13:33 nicomen or no shortcuts
23:14:10 nicomen AMiGR: lol, what DOES that do?
23:14:50 AMiGR nicomen: well, function that returns a pointer to an integer function
23:14:51 nicomen pass two vars to a function outputted by a fucntion that gets two vars?
23:14:53 wegster nicomen: it's evil, a function returning a functiona pointer.
23:14:57 AMiGR yeah
23:15:16 wegster actually, and may need to try to compile it, but only thing that makes sense.
23:15:18 AMiGR I mean, at a first glance, i said WTF, since I'd never used this
23:15:18 nicomen unnecessary ugly imho. is that some weird way of doing closures in c?
23:15:28 AMiGR but reading it better, it makes sense
23:16:12 AMiGR [21:41] bigfoot Here's why you typedef function pointers ;)
23:16:20 AMiGR [21:41] Piru using some typedefs simplifies such things
23:16:22 AMiGR :-P
23:17:42 wegster this is true ;-)
23:19:26 AMiGR nicomen: well, you have to mentally split it to 2 things
23:19:41 AMiGR int F(int c, int d)l
23:19:43 AMiGR -l
23:19:43 AMiGR ;
23:19:53 nicomen yes yes, but is there any reasons why you should do it like that?
23:19:56 AMiGR with F = *f(a,b)
23:20:00 AMiGR no idea
23:20:04 nicomen ok
23:20:12 nicomen not sure what we are discussing anyway btw.
23:20:28 AMiGR although I can think of some uses I'd use this for, I can probably find other ways to do it
23:20:31 AMiGR nicomen: basic thread
23:20:32 nicomen no idea what side I'm on, since I don't know what your opinion was ;)
23:20:36 nicomen (I always argue against)
23:20:40 wegster nicomen: if going to use it as a callback function with fixed params, or going to replace with some other function at runtime, have to include the params...it's obscure, but used.
23:21:14 nicomen seems like typical closure to me
23:21:44 AMiGR nicomen: still, I've seen C stuff that makes no sense whatsoever
23:21:50 spotUP Orgin!!...
23:21:57 AMiGR yet Goerg chose to post this
23:21:58 AMiGR :-P
23:22:02 nicomen he went to sleep some hours ago I think
23:22:03 spotUP SMW is in the upload cue at os4depot! RELEASE!!!!!
23:22:07 spotUP noooo!
23:22:15 spotUP :) i want that game, now!! now now now!'
23:22:44 AMiGR it's just a common misconception of beginners, that they'll have to mess with every complicated use of the language
23:22:46 AMiGR from the start
23:23:01 spotUP who ported sdlbasic? anyone here? hehe a fast reply on those cries for a basic kit for aos4 on aw the last days :)
23:23:46 wegster spotUP: yes, but now what will we argue about? ;-)
23:23:58 nicomen spotUP: yeah I compiled it for os4
23:24:01 AMiGR wegster: oh, we'll find something, don't worry
23:24:02 AMiGR :-P
23:24:25 AMiGR you'll soon having the matthias basic author rant on how shite sdlbasic is or something :-P
23:24:44 AMiGR (kidding, just meaning that we ALWAYS find something to argue about)
23:24:44 wegster wtf is matthiatas, or however samurai crow keeps spelling it?
23:25:03 AMiGR wegster: his basic implementation...
23:25:03 wegster well, err....peg sux, but A1s suck more? ;-)
23:25:09 AMiGR vapour, as far as I'm concerned
23:25:11 AMiGR :-P
23:25:13 wegster so he intentionally named it that?
23:25:15 AMiGR yeah
23:25:18 wegster ick
23:25:50 nicomen hmm
23:26:01   -!- * nicomen comsiders setting up a NO BASIC sign at the channel door ;D
23:26:05 nicomen considers
23:26:08 nicomen .com ciders!
23:26:26 nicomen btw. there IS such a thing as free beer
23:27:15 AMiGR nicomen: I know, I got carried out of a beer festival, after drinking for 6-7 hours straight
23:27:17 AMiGR :-D
23:27:32 nicomen ouch
23:27:48 AMiGR after making sure that the sitting room gets evacuated by emptying the contents of my stomach right in the midle
23:27:49 AMiGR middle
23:27:50 AMiGR :_P
23:27:57 wegster nicomen: you can't put that sign up, Ateheist is on his way here now.
23:28:04 wegster Atheist even.
23:28:08 nicomen My body still have reflexes to make me at least start walking in direction home before I pass out
23:28:56 AMiGR nicomen: well, I must have had around 20 pints of beer that day.
23:28:57 AMiGR all kinds
23:29:04 AMiGR lager, ale, cider
23:29:21 nicomen hehe, I usually don't drink more than than
23:29:22 nicomen that
23:29:33 AMiGR well, the cider destroyed me
23:29:46 AMiGR I fell asleep for half an hour or so
23:29:57 AMiGR then collapsed sideways while trying to get more
23:29:57 nicomen hehe
23:30:28 AMiGR then puked in the middle of the sitting room, got carried out to a St John's Ambulance...
23:30:40 nicomen when I can't seemm to hit my face with the booe anymore I normally start to think about stopping
23:30:40 AMiGR walked around the city in socks, for some obscure reason
23:31:00 AMiGR and regained consciousness after 3 doner kebabs or so
23:31:00 AMiGR :-P
23:31:01 nicomen hehe
23:31:31 AMiGR didn't know that one can eat so many kebabs without dying
23:31:31 AMiGR :-P
23:31:45 nicomen lol
23:32:03 AMiGR the best part:
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23:32:11 AMiGR everything but the olived I had in there and the kebabs
23:32:13 AMiGR was free
23:32:14 AMiGR :-D
23:32:16 AMiGR olives
23:32:51 nicomen too bad you threw it all up?
23:32:57 AMiGR a mate "worked" there (volunteered) and was providing me with free tickets
23:33:04 AMiGR and no hang-over the next day
23:33:10 AMiGR nicomen: nah, jsut the beer and olives
23:33:11 AMiGR :-P
23:51:42 spotUP nicomen, aha it was you... :) is it c64 basic style? :)
23:51:56 spotUP only basic i ever almost learnt. :)
23:52:44 spotUP nico, you compiled smw too?...
23:56:28 spotUP .. and if you did which version is it?