| 00:04:16 | itix | n8 |
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| 00:04:41 | spotUP | binox; so.. what do you have in mind for easter? whatcha gonna code? |
| 00:05:10 | BinoX | Hmm.. It's a secret project... but it involves networking :p |
| 00:05:31 | spotUP | hmmm :) p2p networking? |
| 00:05:59 | BinoX | Not really... but I aint telling... Lets just say there's 4- pages of source atm and it still aint done |
| 00:06:03 | BinoX | 40* |
| 00:06:21 | BinoX | lol nico... I like yer test pastings.. especially paste 10... looks like the kinda thing I do to test stuff |
| 00:06:52 | spotUP | ooh.. sounds nice. looking forward to it.. i must be the most curious guy ever.. except for my dad, who i got it from.. :) |
| 00:07:39 | BinoX | lol.. U'll see... Maybe I;ll even have something out this easter... Hope so, 'cause it's a little annoying atm.. wanted it out long ago, but it's a lot harder than it seems |
| 00:07:44 | nicomen | spotUP: is that really the original Makefile? |
| 00:07:58 | nicomen | seems to be missing lots of defines, like $CFLAGS andd $DESTDIR etc |
| 00:08:14 | spotUP | yea, why? did i fuck something up when i removed my changes maybe.. |
| 00:08:25 | spotUP | hmm |
| 00:08:57 | spotUP | i'll try to do a ./configure and see what happens.. |
| 00:11:16 | spotUP | i did a configure before i think, but something might have gone wrong, i should assign bin: to sdk:local/c/ right? just asking to be sure. |
| 00:12:26 | nicomen | maybe ;) |
| 00:13:18 | spotUP | this is all it does; |
| 00:13:19 | spotUP | sh |
| 00:13:19 | spotUP | rm -rf build/* |
| 00:13:19 | spotUP | rm -f smw |
| 00:13:19 | spotUP | rm -f leveledit |
| 00:13:19 | spotUP | rm -f smw.exe |
| 00:13:21 | spotUP | rm -f leveledit.exe |
| 00:13:23 | spotUP | rm -f options.bin |
| 00:13:56 | spotUP | -sh |
| 00:14:36 | BinoX | force remove lots of directories? That doesn't look right.... or good for that matter... |
| 00:14:46 | BinoX | and files |
| 00:14:52 | BinoX | er files* |
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| 00:15:44 | spotUP | dooh |
| 00:15:48 | BinoX | DSI error? |
| 00:16:00 | spotUP | i crashed... started ced from abc-shell it doesn't like that.. :) |
| 00:16:06 | BinoX | lol |
| 00:16:09 | nicomen | wich abc-shell ? |
| 00:16:21 | spotUP | the one from the depot.. |
| 00:20:46 | spotUP | hmmm... i'll redownload the makefile from the site. .. . |
| 00:21:12 | spotUP | can i give ./configure any options? or, rather should i when i wanna make aos4 makefiles? |
| 00:22:58 | nicomen | sure |
| 00:23:18 | nicomen | CC=ppc-amigaos-gcc CFLAGS="-Ifoo" ./configure |
| 00:23:46 | spotUP | that line goes into my howto/ docs dirs.. :) |
| 00:24:40 | BinoX | Hmmm... I have to make a webpage for my software once I release it.... aww.. that means web development... I do enough of that at work >_< lol |
| 00:24:57 | spotUP | yawn.. :/ |
| 00:25:51 | spotUP | ok let's try that funky configure line and see if it looks better. |
| 00:27:06 | BinoX | Well.. off to sleep now... enough looking through debug output for one night... c ya :) |
| 00:27:16 | spotUP | night BinoX |
| 00:27:23 | spotUP | thanx for the help. |
| 00:27:39 | spotUP | configure doesn't touch the makefile that's included atleast.. |
| 00:42:51 | spotUP | hmmm |
| 00:42:52 | spotUP | _src/AOS4compat.h: At global scope: |
| 00:42:52 | spotUP | _src/AOS4compat.h:3: warning: 'char* strlwr(char*)' defined but not used |
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| 12:12:53 | zerohero | i have a piece of code that does this: |
| 12:13:19 | zerohero | rootnode = (struct RootNode *)DOSBase->dl_Root; |
| 12:13:32 | zerohero | but dosbase is private in os4 |
| 12:13:48 | zerohero | is there a legal way of getting dl_root instead? |
| 12:15:53 | zerohero | hmm |
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| 12:33:51 | zerohero | bah, it seems there are no rootnodes on os4 |
| 12:34:06 | zerohero | rewrite, don't like that :/ |
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| 15:08:14 | itix | hi |
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| 15:31:37 | spotUP | hello.. |
| 15:31:54 | itix | spot down |
| 15:32:01 | spotUP | does anyone know why i get this? |
| 15:32:01 | spotUP | SDK:Local/C/sed: -e expression #1, char 28: Memory exhausted |
| 15:32:02 | spotUP | none |
| 15:32:08 | spotUP | hi itrix! |
| 15:32:26 | spotUP | a bug in sed? |
| 15:32:27 | itix | out of memory |
| 15:32:39 | spotUP | that's weird... i have 512mb |
| 15:33:11 | spotUP | it says it all the time, but i have 300mb free. |
| 15:33:39 | nicomen | spotUP: it's a bug |
| 15:33:47 | spotUP | hmmm is there a fix? |
| 15:33:59 | nicomen | spo which sed is it? |
| 15:34:20 | spotUP | i dunno, it's part of core utils i guess? i downloaded the latest. |
| 15:34:50 | spotUP | wh |
| 15:34:54 | spotUP | oops |
| 15:35:08 | spotUP | i guess i have some bugreporting to do. |
| 15:35:41 | nicomen | http://aminet.net/package.php?package=util/gnu/sed-4.1.4-bin_os4.lha |
| 15:35:42 | nicomen | might work |
| 15:35:50 | zerohero | what happened to the fixed one on os4depot then? |
| 15:35:56 | zerohero | or aminet |
| 15:36:11 | spotUP | aha. i searched for an archive but couldn't find any. thanx, i'll try it. |
| 15:36:14 | zerohero | why didn't the changes make it into coreutils? |
| 15:36:15 | nicomen | not sure if it really wa fixed |
| 15:36:31 | nicomen | sed is separate from coreurils no? |
| 15:36:37 | zerohero | it worked, so it must be fixed ;) |
| 15:36:46 | zerohero | i thought so |
| 15:36:58 | zerohero | separate that is |
| 15:37:21 | nicomen | well you said that another version worked once too |
| 15:37:27 | spotUP | that explains it, i never downloaded the separate archive since updating to upd4. |
| 15:37:31 | nicomen | but it fixed on error but broke another |
| 15:37:36 | nicomen | one |
| 15:39:00 | spotUP | works now. :) thanx. |
| 15:39:18 | spotUP | nico, trying a slightly smaller port today. :) |
| 15:39:40 | spotUP | or a few. someone of them must be easy. |
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| 15:46:58 | manolo_k_ | hello |
| 15:47:20 | nicomen | hi |
| 15:47:27 | manolo_k_ | how are you? |
| 15:47:39 | nicomen | ok |
| 15:47:55 | manolo_k_ | i always have a question |
| 15:47:58 | manolo_k_ | jeje |
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| 15:49:22 | manolo_k_ | i'm interesteed on know what exactly does the superecho over the amiga chips and the digitizer |
| 15:49:37 | manolo_k_ | what do you recomend me? |
| 15:51:42 | nicomen | talk to the author I guess |
| 15:51:58 | spotUP | i dunno what the super echo is, sorry. |
| 15:51:59 | manolo_k_ | he lost the code |
| 15:52:13 | manolo_k_ | near 20 years ago |
| 15:52:46 | manolo_k_ | superecho is a little program that uses digitizer to affect the audio input signal |
| 15:52:57 | manolo_k_ | 18 kbs |
| 15:53:03 | manolo_k_ | is on aminet |
| 15:53:10 | manolo_k_ | sounds great with mic and guitar |
| 15:53:28 | manolo_k_ | but you have to build your on presets with a tables i made |
| 15:54:07 | spotUP | isn't SDL_sound part of SDL_mixer? |
| 15:54:18 | manolo_k_ | i dont understand |
| 15:54:30 | manolo_k_ | is for amiga 500 basically |
| 15:54:39 | spotUP | manolo, oh, you're lucky to even get hold of him, if it was so long ago. :) |
| 15:54:40 | manolo_k_ | thats the problem |
| 15:55:06 | manolo_k_ | jeje |
| 15:56:02 | manolo_k_ | i own an action replay, this can helps but i need more info about how the program works |
| 15:56:19 | spotUP | aha. i am the wrong person. sorry. |
| 15:56:31 | spotUP | try to ask att http://eab.abime.net |
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| 15:57:54 | spotUP | number6! |
| 15:57:59 | manolo_k_ | an old coders amiga chat? |
| 15:58:08 | number6 | Hi spotUP |
| 15:58:19 | spotUP | manolo, lots of old amiga users, lots of coders hang there, it's a forum. |
| 15:58:39 | number6 | spotUP: Which forum is that? |
| 15:58:49 | spotUP | english amiga board. it rocks. |
| 15:59:00 | number6 | Ah! |
| 15:59:02 | spotUP | isn't sdl_sound available for os4? |
| 15:59:19 | number6 | Andrea uses it for MPlayer, so yes. |
| 15:59:38 | spotUP | hmm.. i guess he hasn't uploaded it.. hmm |
| 16:00:16 | number6 | Dunno. |
| 16:01:07 | number6 | spotUP: You use MPlayer? |
| 16:01:16 | spotUP | sure. |
| 16:01:22 | spotUP | why? |
| 16:01:30 | number6 | ahi or sdl for your audio? |
| 16:01:59 | spotUP | lemme check. |
| 16:02:19 | number6 | Just curious as there has been discussion on which is faster. |
| 16:02:37 | spotUP | 'default' :) dunno which one it is. |
| 16:03:43 | number6 | Hmm...Andrea suggested I used sdl for all my audio tests, but Deniil still claims ahi is faster (or more efficient) for some users. |
| 16:03:54 | spotUP | hmm |
| 16:04:01 | spotUP | do you want me to do a test? |
| 16:04:29 | number6 | Only if they are really interested in the results. lol |
| 16:05:02 | number6 | MPlayer DP#3 (through shell) is still the only version that prints out dynamic info regarding replay (fps, etc.) |
| 16:05:27 | number6 | lol. I have 4 or 5 versions here. |
| 16:05:33 | spotUP | aha .. i have a newer version... :) |
| 16:06:43 | number6 | spotUP: Yes. DP#4 is only for XE with Altivec. DP#5 is current for both machines. Experimental version is just that...simply to test the scale features. And the latest beta serves a new purpose. |
| 16:07:20 | spotUP | aha ok. |
| 16:07:31 | number6 | DP#3 has protection for crashes when encountering codecs such as WMV9, DP#5 does not. So, many users are still testing on "old" version. |
| 16:07:33 | zerohero | i wish there was a "finished" or "polished" version |
| 16:07:54 | number6 | zerohero: Not the mention the legal implications..... |
| 16:08:24 | zerohero | number6: ehm? what has that got to do with a working version? |
| 16:08:29 | number6 | zerohero: Note that MPlayer does not currently play the intel indeo codecs. |
| 16:08:50 | number6 | ...or many other older codecs |
| 16:09:15 | spotUP | rumours say a new version is on the way with better support. |
| 16:09:22 | zerohero | well, in this case newer is definately better |
| 16:09:33 | zerohero | !seen afxgroup |
| 16:09:33 | GrimReaper | I don't know who afxgroup is. |
| 16:09:35 | MrBot | afxgroup (~andrea@39c049cc.2486bca.pool80183.interbusiness.it) was last seen quitting from #amigadev 5 days, 16 hours, 13 minutes ago stating (Quit: {}). |
| 16:09:37 | number6 | Yes. and a "slow" version of WMV9/10 playback |
| 16:09:48 | zerohero | hmm |
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| 16:10:05 | number6 | I noticed he has not been here lately too. |
| 16:10:09 | zerohero | we have to send someone to italy |
| 16:10:16 | zerohero | i think andrea is growing a life |
| 16:10:29 | number6 | zerohero: Well Nicomen DID invite him to come to Norway. |
| 16:10:42 | zerohero | norway? what an insult |
| 16:10:49 | | -!- * number6 ducks |
| 16:11:23 | zerohero | no wonder he stays away then |
| 16:11:38 | spotUP | hah |
| 16:13:13 | number6 | The delay is possibly due to co-ordinating the release of the new GUI with the executable. (different GUIs mixed with wrong versions of MPlayer=not a good idea) |
| 16:16:24 | spotUP | hmm, has anyone ported mikmod to aos4? :) |
| 16:17:06 | manolo_k_ | bye |
| 16:17:07 | manolo_k_ | thanks |
| 16:17:09 | spotUP | libmikmod that is. |
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| 16:18:09 | spotUP | seems not.. after some googling.. |
| 16:21:39 | spotUP | damn.. all sdl demos require mikmod or fmod.. fuck those. |
| 16:22:08 | zerohero | spotUP: then there are more projects for you |
| 16:22:49 | spotUP | i have already talked to the fmod guys, the are waaay to commercial, the want LOTS of cash, and mikmod sounds complicated for a noob like me.. :) |
| 16:23:19 | spotUP | mikmod is a rotten modplayer.. dunno why people use it. |
| 16:25:16 | spotUP | well, i found ONE demo that might be portable for me. :) waiting for andrea to reply. asked him for sdl_sound.. let's hope. |
| 16:31:28 | number6 | Andrea is logged into AW presently. |
| 16:31:34 | zerohero | well, mikmod is configure && make |
| 16:31:42 | zerohero | but i'm sure it won't play anything |
| 16:32:14 | zerohero | unless you can use the raw driver or something |
| 16:34:10 | zerohero | hmm |
| 16:34:27 | zerohero | drv_raw and drv_wav only writes to disk apparently |
| 16:34:57 | zerohero | i guess you'd have to write drv_ahi or something |
| 16:35:01 | zerohero | how annoying |
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| 16:42:28 | MrBot | [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;) |
| 16:42:28 | racs | hi there |
| 16:45:14 | zerohero | hey racs :) |
| 16:49:20 | racs | zerohero |
| 16:59:36 | spotUP | zerohero, aha, thanx for looking into it. |
| 16:59:54 | spotUP | number6, uhum, i'll check my pm's then. :) |
| 17:00:40 | spotUP | got a reply, it seems it was toaks who ported sdl_sound... another pm then! |
| 17:01:53 | number6 | Knowing the right person surely helps... |
| 17:02:16 | spotUP | yepp. :) |
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| 17:55:12 | Ami603 | hi |
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| 18:48:47 | spotUP | hi |
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| 19:03:14 | itix | rehi |
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| 19:04:40 | racs | bye all |
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| 19:05:57 | nicomen | spotUP: the sdl stuff is not a bout porting really most of it compiles out of the box |
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| 19:07:04 | nicomen | Richard Drummond has maintained os4 version of SDL. But I believe people like gabrielle greco did initial ports to 3.x and morphos |
| 19:08:54 | itix | he did |
| 19:09:21 | itix | powersdl is based on amigasdl by greco |
| 19:10:50 | spotUP | nico, yea, ok, i meant compile. haha most stuff doesn't compile out of the box for me though. :) |
| 19:12:03 | spotUP | (that's why i just keep trying and never release anything.. i should be getting a book about c coding some day) |
| 19:12:42 | nicomen | it's not that hard it just takes time to get familiar with it |
| 19:12:44 | nicomen | I'm not |
| 19:13:19 | spotUP | familiar with c you mean? |
| 19:13:37 | nicomen | no I'm not hard... |
| 19:13:44 | spotUP | hahaha |
| 19:13:47 | nicomen | come on! there's just boys here, what do you expect.. |
| 19:14:21 | spotUP | hmm lunapaint looks nice. |
| 19:14:44 | nicomen | yeah, it should be easy to compile too |
| 19:14:56 | spotUP | i bet, as it's available for aros. |
| 19:15:06 | nicomen | I compiled one of his version a year or so ago, had to fix some typos and bugs (but then it was meant for win32) |
| 19:15:16 | spotUP | aha. |
| 19:15:37 | spotUP | is there a gui or something for CVS? |
| 19:15:43 | nicomen | http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/os4_lunapaint.png |
| 19:15:45 | nicomen | http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/os4_lunapaint2.png |
| 19:16:14 | nicomen | it's VERY basic compared to the version now though |
| 19:16:34 | spotUP | seen those shots before. |
| 19:17:09 | Dessimat0r | The requested URL /nicomen/os4_lunapaint2.png was not found on this server. |
| 19:17:17 | spotUP | reading up on cvs to get the sources. |
| 19:17:31 | nicomen | Dessimat0r: true it never existed |
| 19:17:38 | spotUP | sourceforge ain't exactly kind to ibrowse. |
| 19:17:52 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 19:18:49 | spotUP | nice boingball nico. :) |
| 19:20:36 | nicomen | lol, yeah right |
| 19:22:23 | spotUP | haha.. |
| 19:25:15 | spotUP | what should i type instead of modulename when i want to fetch all parts of the source on sourceforge? |
| 19:25:52 | spotUP | nevermind |
| 19:25:56 | spotUP | fixed it.. |
| 19:26:08 | spotUP | strange that it didn't work the first time, but now it does. |
| 19:29:01 | spotUP | what do i do with a makefile.am to get a useable makefile, if ./configure doesn't work? |
| 19:29:18 | nicomen | automake |
| 19:29:24 | nicomen | autoconf |
| 19:29:49 | spotUP | i just type that? thanx :) been wondering how to use those since a looong time! |
| 19:31:02 | itix | humm |
| 19:31:05 | itix | not really |
| 19:31:25 | spotUP | hah just found out. :) |
| 19:31:26 | itix | if you have makefile.am then running configure script is right way to get it done |
| 19:31:35 | spotUP | hmm |
| 19:31:55 | itix | if configure doesnt work you probably have some dependency problem or incompatibility |
| 19:32:08 | itix | like wrong/bad headers etc |
| 19:32:24 | spotUP | ./configure not found.. |
| 19:32:34 | spotUP | missing files in the source archive maybe? |
| 19:32:38 | itix | ah no |
| 19:32:43 | itix | you must autoconf then |
| 19:32:52 | itix | ./autoconf in os4 |
| 19:33:05 | itix | ./automake before autoconf :P |
| 19:33:13 | itix | but it is not guaranteed to work |
| 19:33:27 | spotUP | SDK:Local/C/sh: ./automake: not found |
| 19:33:29 | spotUP | woops |
| 19:33:43 | spotUP | SDK:Local/C/sh: ./automake: not found |
| 19:33:47 | spotUP | gaah.. |
| 19:33:52 | spotUP | well you get the idea.' |
| 19:33:54 | spotUP | =) |
| 19:33:59 | itix | do you have autoconf? |
| 19:34:06 | spotUP | i guess i don't. |
| 19:34:37 | zerohero | i think someone worked on autoconf/automake, but nothing is released yet |
| 19:34:44 | spotUP | hmm.. |
| 19:34:48 | zerohero | haven't heard about it in ages |
| 19:34:50 | spotUP | would the 68k versions do? |
| 19:35:31 | spotUP | hmm.. but... using linux to autoconf, that wouldn't work right? |
| 19:35:51 | itix | linux autoconf works |
| 19:35:54 | spotUP | then i would need to crosscompile the whole package from linux right? |
| 19:35:59 | itix | nope |
| 19:36:20 | spotUP | aha.. so i guess i'll boot into linux and prepare the makefile then.. hmm .. |
| 19:36:22 | itix | it doesnt compile anything |
| 19:36:26 | itix | just creates needed files |
| 19:36:48 | spotUP | yepp, but i thought that all paths and stuff would be wrong if i did it from linux.. but it would be a start. |
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| 19:37:40 | itix | usually everything is prepared on linux so it doesnt make difference |
| 19:37:47 | spotUP | true. |
| 19:37:59 | itix | for this reason someone should port geekgadgets to os4 too ;) |
| 19:38:38 | spotUP | hehe there's a whole lot that mr someone person has on his to-do list. poor guy. |
| 19:39:24 | spotUP | i wouldn't be surprized if hnl_dk is on it, he has ported most other tools. |
| 19:39:40 | spotUP | well, back in a while, rebooting into linux and trying. |
| 19:39:45 | spotUP | see ya. |
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| 19:40:13 | raef[amiga] | who uses amithlon now ? |
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| 19:41:26 | manolo_k_ | hi |
| 19:41:32 | raef[amiga] | :) |
| 19:41:57 | manolo_k_ | i am trying to encode a program |
| 19:42:02 | manolo_k_ | "superecho |
| 19:42:10 | manolo_k_ | a realtime effects audio |
| 19:42:15 | manolo_k_ | is for 500 |
| 19:42:34 | manolo_k_ | but i dont know how exac tly works |
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| 19:56:31 | nicomen | hehe |
| 19:56:37 | nicomen | channel is growing... |
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| 20:30:51 | spotUP | yo!.. |
| 20:34:40 | nicomen | hi again |
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| 21:22:17 | jahc | groan. introduced a new bug. |
| 21:23:07 | number6 | Do tell. |
| 21:23:45 | jahc | I made wookie use the "PREFIX=" information on connect.. |
| 21:23:52 | jahc | so its not hard coded to + and @ anymore |
| 21:24:11 | jahc | and now I'm getting null strings in places where I shouldnt |
| 21:24:22 | number6 | off-topic: Are you using PS2 or USB mouse? |
| 21:24:27 | jahc | ps2 |
| 21:24:42 | jahc | I can ignore the null strings, but it seems to be making my nicklist fuck up and not display nicks correctly.. |
| 21:25:00 | jahc | I mean, it displays nicks inaccurately.. some people may or may not be there |
| 21:25:39 | number6 | ok. We must remember that interrupts come into play with PS2 and not USB, so reports involving mouse use can be different on Wookie, and all programs actually. (freezes) |
| 21:25:53 | number6 | the nicks...yes. |
| 21:26:21 | jahc | I havent noticed a pattern yet either |
| 21:26:30 | number6 | Exactly the problem. |
| 21:26:50 | number6 | Nothing reproducable. |
| 21:28:12 | number6 | On nicklist: We talked about the list being needed for update of users, but also about certain "overhead" that the list took, right? Only on slower connection, iirc. |
| 21:35:45 | spotUP | i am not here, it's just my nick. |
| 21:36:02 | spotUP | i told him not to go here without me.. |
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| 23:07:53 | itix | n8 |
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