Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-03-27

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05:44:31 Ami603 morning
05:45:03 nicomen yo
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07:36:05 watertonian re: aal
07:36:08 watertonian all
07:36:15 nicomen hi
07:36:27 watertonian anybody know where to d/l a .pdf of a canon bjc-210 manual?
07:36:33 nicomen try internet
07:36:38 watertonian (I know.. asked the same thing in main channel)
07:37:14 nicomen tried googl?
07:37:21 watertonian yup..
07:37:33 watertonian didn't try canon. don't think it'll like ibrowse
07:38:29 nicomen http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=SupportDetailAct&fcategoryid=230&modelid=7957 ?
07:38:29 watertonian worth a try, I suppose.
07:38:49 watertonian ah. ty
07:39:42 nicomen was on first page on google ;)
07:40:00 watertonian figures...
07:40:08 watertonian I always skip the first links... lol
07:40:18 nicomen no manual there though ;D
07:40:28   -!- * watertonian sighs
07:40:57 nicomen  BJC-210 Printer Driver for DOS and Applications
07:40:58 nicomen ;)
07:41:30 watertonian hmm... dos... that works great if I wanna print shit wit PC-TASK!!!! lol
07:41:43 watertonian actually, I'm getting alot of paper jams.
07:41:56 watertonian wanna see what I have to do to fix 'em
07:43:29 watertonian need an arexx script to import HTML into finalcopy.... Awebs printouts suck
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11:09:11 racs hi there
11:09:13 zerohero g'day
11:09:37 MrBot [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;)
11:09:46 zerohero yay, lag :)
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14:27:10 MrBot [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;)
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15:36:52 itix hi
16:23:06 Ami603 re
16:26:22 Ami603 back later, testing the latest sdk </teaser>
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16:29:33 itix pöh
16:30:05   -!- * itix wants that too :P
16:30:35 zerohero hey, you're way back in the line
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17:21:21 Ami603 re
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20:24:42 racs gone
20:24:45 racs bye all
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20:58:00 nicomen hi zap
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22:16:04 BinoX Hello :)
22:16:38 BinoX Just popping by to say hi today.. not after anything ;)
22:17:24 BinoX Development has been halted for the next 1-2 weeks anyway... due to that fact that I have other, paid, work on >_<
22:18:28 BinoX Damn money eh? If only deving for the A1 paid.. lol
22:18:55 nicomen hello
22:19:04 nicomen that would be nice
22:19:34 BinoX yeah.. lol
22:20:04 BinoX On the bright side though, I DID finish re-writing the html parser to use c instead of c++ and work a lot faster with less mem usage :D
22:21:13 BinoX Was hoping to have an alpha out already though.. but it's taking a lot longer than I thought to get to grips with things >_<
22:22:01 nicomen cool
22:22:04 nicomen does it do xml too?
22:23:24 BinoX Not really... it does indenting for it... on a console window.. but that wouldn#t be hard to chage later (That's actually how I tested the parser originally), but nothing else... wanna get pages going 1st
22:24:12 BinoX It's just not doing it totally right... I think I'm storing x,y values wrong somewhere
22:24:45 nicomen but it is able to read the various elements right?
22:25:13 BinoX yeah, that's the easy bit.. heh
22:25:42 BinoX 40 pages of code so far though (when printed)... lol
22:26:12 BinoX about 10 of that is error checking.. lol
22:27:19 BinoX Working comes 1st, optimising comes later ;)
22:27:21 nicomen not suprised
22:28:16 BinoX which reminds me... haven't backup up for a while... *doing it now*
22:28:51 nicomen svn ;)
22:29:09 BinoX ??
22:29:45 nicomen subversion - version control system
22:30:00 nicomen put it on another machine and no need for backup, check in changes regularly
22:30:27 BinoX bah... I just stick it on a ZIP disk whenever I finish a big section.. lol
22:30:36 nicomen hehe
22:31:34 BinoX I'm using dos.library for file handling now... seems faster :)
22:32:33 nicomen than?
22:32:37 nicomen newlib/clib2?
22:33:12 BinoX however c++ does it.. lol.. (just typing g++ file.cpp)
22:33:32 nicomen ok
22:33:44 BinoX never been good with compilers ^_^;;
22:35:09 BinoX I forsee a trouble in the future... but I may be able to overcome it by looping around.. heh... rendering elements defined before the css file is loaded.. like the <HTML> tag, which believe it or not, is used too often >_<
22:35:53 BinoX And for badly formatted html when the css link is in the middle of the page somewhere (yes... it does happen)
22:36:03 nicomen correct
22:36:09 nicomen you need to repaint several times
22:36:17 BinoX Yeah... pretty much
22:36:27 nicomen that also goes for tables and all box that might or might not overflow and similar
22:36:39 BinoX yeah.. heh
22:37:56 BinoX I think my 1st release will be really basic.. just things like text formatting, backgrounds and some borders... just to get it out there and show it working... then I'll work on the ifddly stuff
22:38:12 BinoX fiddly*
22:38:34 BinoX Like float, positing, display etc
22:38:44 BinoX position*
22:38:54 BinoX lol.. cant type tonight
22:40:50 BinoX at least using dos libraries readline command I can tell how many bytes I need to assign for things :)
22:44:46 BinoX Mad a very bad logo in a couple of mins during work today... lol... Just for the alphas... then I'll get a real logo done..
22:44:47 BinoX http://www.binox.demon.co.uk/logo-A.png
22:46:18 BinoX Well.. I'm off again... girlfriend is ill and it's time to get her off to bed, c ya :)
22:53:29 nicomen cya
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23:21:33 spotUP aah... new channel for me! hello boys!
23:21:47 nicomen welcome ;)
23:21:53 spotUP i am just trying to compile my first sdl game, and i think i am PRETTY close! :)
23:21:53 nicomen you've been missing out ;D
23:21:59 spotUP =)
23:22:00 nicomen what's the question?
23:22:22 spotUP well, i wouldn't really call me a dev.. :) rather a tiring mega noob with a helluva will power. :)
23:22:41 spotUP well, gcc complains... here's what it says...
23:22:41 nicomen we've all been mega noobs
23:22:43 BinoX Join the club.. lol ;) (hello again)
23:22:54 spotUP hello binox!
23:22:57 spotUP numbah6!
23:23:11 number6 spotUP
23:23:20 nicomen ironically he is number 7 on the channel list here
23:23:21 spotUP here goes;
23:23:23 spotUP make
23:23:23 spotUP g++ -o build/MapList.o -c _src/MapList.cpp -I/sdk/local/clib2/include/SDL -I/sdk/local/common/include/SDL -lsdl_image -lSDL_mixer -lvorbisfile -lvorbis -logg -lsdlmain -lsdl -lauto -lpthread -lm -lSDL_mixer -lSMPEG -lSDL -lSDL_net
23:23:23 spotUP In file included from _src/global.h:183,
23:23:23 spotUP from _src/MapList.cpp:15:
23:23:25 spotUP _src/input.h:83:20: warning: no newline at end of file
23:23:27 spotUP In file included from _src/global.h:189,
23:23:29 spotUP from _src/MapList.cpp:15:
23:23:30 spotUP _src/player.h:269:20: warning: no newline at end of file
23:23:33 spotUP In file included from _src/global.h:190,
23:23:35 spotUP from _src/MapList.cpp:15:
23:23:37 spotUP _src/team.h:39:18: warning: no newline at end of file
23:23:38 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp: In member function `bool MapList::find(char*)':
23:23:41 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp:84: error: `strlwr' undeclared (first use this function)
23:23:43 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp:84: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.)
23:23:46 spotUP make: *** [build/MapList.o] Error 1
23:23:47 spotUP nico haha
23:23:51 nicomen developing in Notepad are we ;)
23:24:02 spotUP naah! CED rulez supreme!
23:24:22 spotUP and the shell fcoz.
23:24:24 nicomen what's strlwr supposed to be?
23:25:02 BinoX converts a string to lower case
23:25:07 spotUP wooops
23:25:12 spotUP wrong paste..
23:25:15 spotUP here it is
23:25:17 nicomen http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/libc/libc_765.html
23:25:23 nicomen says it's neither ansi nor posix
23:25:26 spotUP make smw
23:25:26 spotUP g++ -o build/MapList.o -c _src/MapList.cpp -I/sdk/local/clib2/include/SDL -I/sdk/local/common/include/SDL -lsdl_image -lSDL_mixer -lvorbisfile -lvorbis -logg -lsdlmain -lsdl -lauto -lpthread -lm -lSDL_mixer -lSMPEG -lSDL -lSDL_net
23:25:26 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp: In member function `bool MapList::find(char*)':
23:25:26 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp:84: error: `strlwr' undeclared (first use this function)
23:25:26 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp:84: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.)
23:25:34 spotUP make: *** [build/MapList.o] Error 1
23:25:35 itix <spotUP> _src/player.h:269:20: warning: no newline at end of file
23:25:42 itix this is not dangerous
23:25:48 itix it is just GCC4 being lame
23:25:58 spotUP yepp i removed a couple of those.
23:26:22 nicomen spotUP: strlwr is a non standard function
23:26:43 spotUP hmm... ok
23:27:02 itix #if (defined(__amigaos4__) && !defined(_NEWLIB_STDIO_H)) || (defined(__MORPHOS__) && (__GNUC__ >= 4))
23:27:02 itix / missing in clib2 but newlib has it
23:27:07 itix static void strlwr(char *s)
23:27:07 itix {
23:27:12 itix  char c;
23:27:12 itix  while (c = *s) *s++ = tolower(c);
23:27:17 itix }
23:27:17 itix #endif
23:27:22 itix there
23:27:58 BinoX so.. pretty much looping through the char array and doing a tolower() on each one...
23:28:03 nicomen yup
23:28:27 spotUP eeeh... heheh ok, i am trying to grasp things here.
23:28:31 nicomen spotUP: just include the function itix pasted somewhere
23:28:47 spotUP in maplist.cpp?
23:29:01 nicomen I'd put it in some .h file
23:29:03 BinoX Bah, I prefer "for" loops... lol... (Came from a BASIC background.. heh.. where FOR is king xD)
23:29:10 spotUP or do i include it as a separate source file?
23:29:49 nicomen mak a compat.h or similar and include it where needed
23:29:57 nicomen maybe there already is some global include files there
23:30:11 spotUP yes. ok will try!
23:32:22 spotUP ok, i am sticking #include AOS4compat.h at the top of maplist.cpp this makes sence right?
23:32:43 BinoX Seem to makes sense :)
23:32:45 nicomen well, are you sure strlwr is not used other places?
23:32:51 spotUP or.. should that be #include <AOS4compat.h> ?
23:32:57 nicomen ""
23:33:04 spotUP aha ok
23:33:09 BinoX should be in "".. and nico beat me to it
23:33:18 nicomen muahah
23:33:25 spotUP =) nice to have two skilled guys racing to help me. :)
23:33:34 BinoX Hmm.. there is a small posibility that it will cause an error if the char is already lower case... u know how os4 can be sometimes...
23:33:45 nicomen ?
23:33:50 nicomen why?
23:34:02 nicomen tolower should leave it if it already is?
23:34:18 BinoX Unless it does byte flipping without checking...
23:34:28 nicomen doubt that
23:34:31 BinoX in which case you should check it with islower()
23:34:37 nicomen anyway, this will mostly only work for ascii text
23:34:38 BinoX or isupper()
23:34:46 nicomen maybe if you are lucky for somet iso-lating lavours
23:34:49 nicomen -g
23:35:19 itix BinoX: not needed
23:35:20 spotUP allright progress! :)
23:35:23 spotUP make smw
23:35:24 spotUP g++ -o build/MapList.o -c _src/MapList.cpp -I/sdk/local/clib2/include/SDL -I/sdk/local/common/include/SDL -lsdl_image -lSDL_mixer -lvorbisfile -lvorbis -logg -lsdlmain -lsdl -lauto -lpthread -lm -lSDL_mixer -lSMPEG -lSDL -lSDL_net
23:35:24 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp: In member function `bool MapList::find(char*)':
23:35:24 spotUP _src/MapList.cpp:84: error: invalid use of void expression
23:35:26 BinoX lol.. isupper.. sounds like apple mac food... iSupper
23:35:26 spotUP make: *** [build/MapList.o] Error 1
23:35:28 itix BinoX: all software would break
23:36:33 nicomen what does line 84 say?
23:36:37 spotUP i remember this damn bool thingie from last night... hmm
23:37:20 BinoX quote: (from my book about tolower() ) In some C dialects, instead of returning the argument unchanged, these functions may fail when the argument is not suitable for the conversion.
23:37:40 spotUP hmm.. it's the strlwr again..
23:37:41 spotUP  if(strstr(strlwr(strdup((*current).second.c_str())), strlwr(name))) //compare names after
23:37:51 spotUP should i include the compat thing again?
23:38:06 nicomen oh, hehe
23:38:06 nicomen hold on
23:38:12 spotUP haha
23:38:33 BinoX wow... That's some serious nested functions O_O
23:38:47 nicomen char *strlwr(char *string);
23:38:48 spotUP do you wanna see a bigger snippet?
23:38:54 nicomen so
23:40:27 BinoX Hmmm... damn.. lol... 400 pages of debug output.... i am NOT printing that!
23:40:32 nicomen http://utilitybase.com/paste/2667
23:42:06 spotUP another variant of the compat.h?
23:42:18 spotUP should i try using that one instead?
23:43:04 nicomen yes
23:43:11 nicomen unless I have fucked up
23:43:35 spotUP ok, i'll try.
23:45:12 spotUP allright! that got me a whole lot further... and it gave me more errors.. grr.. let we see as varthall would have put it...
23:45:54 spotUP i'll start by fixing this one _src/AOS4compat.h:8:7: warning: no newline at end of file
23:45:55 spotUP hahahahhh
23:46:18 nicomen actally I did fuck up
23:46:21 nicomen http://utilitybase.com/paste/2668
23:46:24 nicomen use that instead
23:46:37 BinoX and put an enter at the end of the file too :)
23:46:39 nicomen yes it compiled with the previous version but it is wrong
23:46:52 nicomen I returned the pointer to the end of the string
23:46:57 spotUP aha ok, hmm there were no serious errors it seems.. promising.. will try with the new one.
23:47:02 nicomen now I save the pointer of the original string
23:47:12 nicomen and return that
23:47:35 BinoX at.. the good old returning the wrong thing... How often have I done that this week? heh
23:47:51 nicomen no idea
23:47:56 nicomen I blame itix
23:47:57 nicomen ;D
23:48:00 BinoX lol
23:48:21 BinoX I blame myself for mine... 'cause I'm crap... lol
23:48:23 spotUP looking good i think.. hmm
23:49:03 nicomen my c skills are teh suck
23:49:19 spotUP i guess this is a common error msg, and it's not harmful in any way, it's just telling me that it hasn't linked yet? '-lsdl_image: linker input file unused because linking not done'
23:49:20 nicomen but wouldn't *s++ really increment the content of s?
23:49:44 nicomen spotUP: g++ -o build/MapList.o -c _src/MapList.cpp -I/sdk/local/clib2/include/SDL -I/sdk/local/common/include/SDL -lsdl_image -lSDL_mixer -lvorbisfile -lvorbis -logg -lsdlmain -lsdl -lauto -lpthread -lm -lSDL_mixer -lSMPEG -lSDL -lSDL_net
23:49:57 nicomen you are just making an object file out of the sources
23:50:13 nicomen it is wrongfuly adding your LDFLAGS and LIBS
23:50:38 spotUP haha damn! and i thought i was clever when i edited the makefile haha
23:50:51 nicomen what is this btw?
23:50:54 nicomen Quake 3 or something?
23:51:16 spotUP haha it's super mario war, an insanely addictive and fun game.
23:51:20 nicomen ah
23:51:40 spotUP i feel so elite, coz i managed to use CVS do dl the sources. :)
23:51:49 nicomen wohoo
23:52:34 spotUP (eheem by reading/copying/pasteing hrrrmm ... but anyway! there's a first for everything...) the next time i might understand what i actually do.. :)
23:52:41 BinoX I'm waiting for Thomas Frieden to finish the last bits of the Q3 port and put it on OS4depot
23:52:51 spotUP quake sucks.. :P
23:53:16 BinoX It's good for multiplayer fun
23:53:27 BinoX Not as good as UT... but still fun
23:53:57   -!- * BinoX makes the "Huuup" noises while typing
23:54:03 spotUP no wonder.. now that you mentioned it, i've put the cflags after build.o in the makefile.. let's try and move them and see what happens..
23:54:40 nicomen BinoX: what did you do with your girlfriend?
23:55:06 BinoX lol.. She's asleep now, just put her in bed, she's been ill all day
23:55:12 nicomen heh ok
23:55:54 BinoX Easter holidays are gunna be a good time for deving :D Girlfriend is off visiting her mother and I'm off work 'cause I work at a school ^_^
23:56:14 nicomen hehe
23:56:26 spotUP can i put the cflags right after $(FLAGS) in this line;
23:56:28 spotUP smw : $(COMMON_OBJS) $(SMW_OBJS)
23:56:28 spotUP  $(CXX) $(CFLAGS) $^ $(LDFLAGS) -o $@
23:56:46 nicomen why?
23:56:50 spotUP forgot a C there but you see what i mean..
23:56:51 nicomen the makefile should be ust fine already
23:57:17 spotUP but it doesn't know what to include from SDL and stuff..
23:57:30 nicomen sure it does
23:57:47 nicomen -I/sdk/local/clib2/include/SDL -I/sdk/local/common/include/SDL should be put in CFLAGS further up
23:57:57 nicomen CFLAGS="-I/sdk/local/clib2/include/SDL -I/sdk/local/common/include/SDL"
23:58:28 nicomen LDFLAGS="-L/sdk/local/clib2/lib/SDL -L/sdk/local/common/lib/SDL"
23:58:32 spotUP the unedited makefile looks like this;
23:58:33 spotUP http://utilitybase.com/paste/2669
23:58:43 nicomen LIBS="-lsdl_image -lSDL_mixer -lvorbisfile -lvorbis -logg -lsdlmain -lsdl -lauto -lpthread -lm -lSDL_mixer -lSMPEG -lSDL -lSDL_net"
23:59:04 nicomen heh, let me add a feature to that thing..
23:59:09 spotUP that's coz i put them there, but i think i put them at the wrong place.
23:59:13 nicomen "edit as new"
23:59:45 spotUP nice paste feat. at utilbase.