Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-03-21

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00:16:09 Varti hmm, he can't find a header
00:16:33 Varti #include "VirtualKeys.h"
00:16:53 Varti but yet its directory is added as
00:17:03 Varti -I../blabla/blabla
00:17:10 Varti why he can't find it...?
00:22:51 Varti ok, mabe because it's not interpreting the "\ " as an escape for space
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00:33:55 zerohero zerohero has changed the topic to: Amiga development channel | clib2 1.199 | Use http://utilitybase.com/paste for huge pastings | http://utilitybase.com | http://www.rootdirectory.de/solar/citations.html <-- teh funneys | ppc-amigaos-gcc 3.4.6 & 4.0.3
00:33:59 zerohero :)
00:36:03 Varti uh? new versions of gcc?
00:36:34 zerohero yes, subversion repository on sf.net
00:36:39 Varti nice
00:36:42 zerohero i just compiled them for linux and cygwin
00:36:56 zerohero cross-compilers rules ;)
00:36:59 Varti nice work
00:37:23 zerohero http://www.zerohero.se/cross/index.html
00:37:52 zerohero anyway, i just finished with them
00:37:57 zerohero now it's time to sleep :)
00:38:00 zerohero g'night all
00:38:34 Varti nite!
00:38:59 number6 night z
00:40:29 Varti hi 6
00:45:54 number6 That you Varthall?
00:46:10 Varti yep
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00:46:19 number6 How was your trip?
00:46:39 Varthall I got a lot of fun
00:46:45 Varthall but it has been very tiresome
00:47:11 Varthall I went to sleep today afrter work
00:47:14 Varthall now I feel better
00:47:35 number6 Did you make the bootable update#1/2 and update#3 partitions for demonstration purposes?
00:48:53 Varthall yep
00:48:59 Varthall but now I'm very busy
00:49:17 Varthall _MUST_ work on Milkytracker ^^
00:56:50 number6 I was just wondering if you demoed "universe 1" under update#3 is all.
00:57:35 Varthall not managed to do that
00:58:01 Varthall tried various combinations of upd3 + warpos drivers from upd4, but it didn't worked
00:59:17 number6 It does under update#3 bootable partition, though, because we -both- had it working then.
00:59:26 SixK good night
00:59:31 number6 Night
00:59:48 Varthall not with a Radeon9200 I guess, which is supported only under upd4
01:00:42 number6 Ah! ok. I had "universe 1" working fine under update#3 with Radeon 7000.
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06:43:23 Ami603[w0rK] mornning
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08:56:59 insurgent hi
09:02:00 nicomen hi
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15:39:28 MrBot [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;)
15:39:28 racs hi there
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19:19:49 racs gone
19:19:49 racs bye
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19:57:02 BinoX Hello all... I'm Baaaaack ^_^
19:57:14 zerohero in that case... wb :)
19:57:32 Ami603 hey BinoX
19:57:33 BinoX heh thx ^_^
19:58:34 BinoX Good progress with the project now :D Got full custom gadget functions, positioning, layering and formatting all working and displaying... Now pulling it all together into the parser to (hopefully) draw things correctly :D
19:58:57 Ami603 preview preview! ;)
19:59:56 BinoX Heh.. not doing any page rendering atm past writing text with "formatting strings" to the console
20:00:33 BinoX I've been working on GUI elements mainly as they were the difficult part.. heh
20:01:24 BinoX I can send you the last just GUI test I compiled if you want... That was a while ago though.. heh.. Can't compile the main code atm 'cause I screwed something up >_<
20:01:49 Ami603 sure ;)
20:01:54 BinoX Although... if you tell me how to get the size of a file before opening it.. that would help ^_^;;;
20:02:17 zerohero BinoX: dos.library/examine()
20:02:29 BinoX Ah.. Examine
20:02:41 BinoX lol.. I used that the other day... stupid me
20:03:29 Ami603 don't forget to use 64bit math to allow for big files
20:03:33 Ami603 just in case
20:06:56 BinoX Bah.. math :p
20:09:04 BinoX Just so you know.. only the close gadget works in that example.. heh
20:09:16 nicomen !seen manolo*
20:09:16 GrimReaper I don't know who manolo* is.
20:09:18 MrBot I found 2 matches to your query (sorted): manolo_k_ manolo_k_608. manolo_k_ (~Webchat@2e60f4af.296d6466.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) was last seen quitting from #amigadev 21 hours, 34 minutes ago stating (Quit: AmigaworldNET Webchat - http://chat.amigaworld.net/webchat.php).
20:09:25 BinoX But it shows the skinning system in action and that fact that it DOES work (look at console output)
20:09:47 BinoX yes... I just use a.out as my test file name.. shame on me :p
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20:10:44 BinoX and yes it does use a lot of mem in that example... largely due to the fact that I left a blt test code in there which is a 4000x4000 32 bit color + alpha channel bitmap.. lol
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20:11:28 BinoX wb.. lol
20:11:30 Ami603_ whoa, made me crash completely ;)+
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20:12:01 Ami603_ could you resend?
20:12:03 BinoX Heh... ooh.. wait.. I may have to send you a file that I used for blit testing...
20:12:14 BinoX >_>;;
20:12:18 Ami603_ ;)
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20:13:05 BinoX He's gone..
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20:13:26 BinoX What kind of error did u get anyway?
20:13:54 Ami603 it was pointing to aweb, so it was a weird crash
20:14:01 BinoX lol
20:14:03 BinoX Odd
20:14:34 Ami603 is it safe now? ;)
20:14:56 BinoX Just got someone else to test it and it worked for them... so I guess so
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20:15:30 Ami603 works now
20:15:36 manolo_k_ good night
20:15:42 BinoX But yeah... only the close gadget has the functionality coded in for that example :)
20:15:42 manolo_k_ hola ami603
20:15:43 BinoX nite
20:15:48 Ami603 hi manolo_k_
20:15:57 BinoX Damn auto responses.. lol
20:16:19 nicomen manolo_k_: got it working?
20:16:39 BinoX But yeah... the only reaction thing in that example is just the open window.. the rest is hand coded xD
20:16:41 Ami603 heh, you're kidding, the window layout is done by you ;)
20:16:51 BinoX Yeah.. skinnable too
20:16:58 BinoX and it adjusts to size :D
20:17:08 nicomen manolo_k_: were you able to change the values using a hex editor?
20:17:13 Ami603 i cannot resize it?
20:17:34 BinoX That was the last compiled layout example
20:17:41 BinoX there's a lot of stuff missing
20:17:53 BinoX after I got that far I started on the main project
20:17:57 Ami603 why not using the intuition own window rendering when not skinning?
20:18:41 BinoX because I do window calculations using skin layouts
20:18:53 BinoX You're not restricted to widths and heights with the skins
20:19:06 BinoX and to work out the window rederable area I have to draw the layout
20:19:17 BinoX and I can't be bothered to add exceptions.. lol
20:19:23 BinoX Maybe in a future version
20:19:49 Ami603 you can add WA_GimmeZeroZero,TRUE to start rendering inside the window
20:19:54 BinoX But largely the reason I drew the GUI out was just to test my gadget system
20:20:30 BinoX and then I quickly turned it into a skinning system.. lol
20:20:34 Ami603 at least it is proving to be a learning exercise ;)
20:20:38 BinoX yeah.. heh
20:21:05 manolo_k_ now i am in a locutory, in home ill try nicomen
20:21:14 BinoX sorry about the large mem usage.. there's a 4000x4000 32bit colour + alpha bitmap in the program that I never commented out after a test I did.. lol
20:21:19 manolo_k_ but i think that in the past i tried somethinbg similar
20:21:30 Ami603 hehe
20:21:36 nicomen manolo_k_: ok ;)
20:21:45 nicomen manolo_k_: with action replay it would only work once
20:21:57 manolo_k_ ?
20:22:00 nicomen manolo_k_: next time you run the proram the memory gets the value from the file
20:22:04 nicomen program
20:22:05 BinoX Oh yah.. and... there's a MAXIMISE button in the actual prog itself.. heh
20:22:28 manolo_k_ maybe i triewd with assembler
20:22:30 nicomen when you run a program, its content is put in memory and you can see it with action replay
20:22:40 manolo_k_ i cant remember, yeras ago
20:22:47 nicomen well use a hex editor and change the SuperEcho file after that you made a backup
20:22:51 nicomen it worked fine here
20:23:19 nicomen it's important that you use a hex editor and no normal editor, so that you ONLY change the value and nothing else
20:23:44 manolo_k_ the problem with superecho is that you have to enter the number and enter to the number in memory changes too, do you understand?
20:24:32 manolo_k_ maybe the number changes in text but not in value
20:24:41 manolo_k_ display only
20:25:04 nicomen maybe but that is probably only when using action replay
20:25:18 manolo_k_ aha
20:25:20 nicomen when editing it in the file itself it will most likely be loaded in memory too
20:25:41 nicomen you might want to make some copies with different default values
20:26:04 nicomen SuperEcho_200x20000.exe, SuperEcho_CoolSound.exe etc ;)
20:26:39 nicomen manolo_k_: if you aren't able to fix it, tell me which values you need as default and I'lltry to fix it for you
20:27:34 manolo_k_ ill see
20:27:39 manolo_k_ great
20:28:00 manolo_k_ thanks again
20:28:19 manolo_k_ is difficult to find the numbers?
20:28:44 manolo_k_ i remember the numbers were repeated
20:28:53 nicomen nope
20:28:54 nicomen easy
20:28:58 nicomen yuå
20:29:00 nicomen yes
20:32:59 manolo_k_ i've found minimig on news, seems great
20:35:44 BinoX Hmm.. is there an easy way to use threads (or something similar) on OS4 without external libraries?
20:36:10 Ami603 there are no threads on amigaos currently
20:36:17 Ami603 only tasks and process
20:36:36 Ami603 you need to use pthreads.lib for that i guess
20:36:43 manolo_k_ bye , people, see you
20:36:47 BinoX c ya
20:36:53 BinoX Yeah.. that's what I thought :(
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20:37:11 BinoX Was hoping to get away without having to use external libraries
20:37:33 BinoX Well.. I guess I'll end up using codesets.library later on too... so I shouldn;t care too much
20:42:44 BinoX Well.. there's pthreads installed... nice and easy to use at least :D
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20:49:09 BinoX Hmm.. in the threads example file they do a return 0; on a void function..
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21:02:13 BinoX Well.. off to walk the dog... Bye bye for now :)
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21:48:05 antique hmmm.anyone up?
21:51:23 BinoX Me... but not for long.. heh
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21:54:33 antique2 wookie crashed. :(
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21:54:54 BinoX heh.. wb
21:56:44 antique got a C problem. :/
21:57:17 BinoX I'll try and help.. but I'm a bit crap.. lol
21:57:26 BinoX But u never know your luck :)
21:57:42 antique hehe. :)
21:58:33 antique AddPart(progs[prognr],fr->rf_File,sizeof(fr->rf_File));
21:59:37 antique thiit doesn't add the file. any idea why not?
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22:00:41 BinoX what is fr?
22:00:50 manolo_k_ hi
22:00:55 BinoX hi
22:01:01 antique hi
22:01:17 manolo_k_ i tried hex to change the parameters of superecho
22:01:48 manolo_k_ but problems
22:02:00 antique fr->rf_File is the file got from aslfilerequest. the file holds the file. i've allready copied the path to progs[prognr],but need the file too.
22:02:39 manolo_k_ can anyone help me with hex editing
22:02:50 BinoX can't help with hex editing I'm afraid
22:02:52 nicomen hi
22:02:59 manolo_k_ hi nick
22:03:00 manolo_k_ jeje
22:03:03 nicomen manolo_k_: sure
22:03:03 manolo_k_ well
22:03:06 manolo_k_ i tell you
22:03:22 nicomen what do you want the values to be?
22:03:26 nicomen and what problems did you get?
22:03:30 BinoX shouldn't that sizeof be sizeof(progs[prognr]) + sizeof(fr->File)
22:03:34 manolo_k_ the asii numbers doesnt affect the values
22:04:00 BinoX since it's the size in bytes of the whole path (I think)
22:04:09 manolo_k_ and when a string is 9 and i want to convert it to 99 there is a space problem
22:04:19 nicomen trueish
22:04:25 antique binox: me don't know.i'm just stupid. hehe. gonna try that
22:04:37 BinoX if sizeof doesn't work.. try strlen
22:04:50 nicomen manolo_k_: so you succeded in getting it showing different numbers, but there isn't any change?
22:04:58 manolo_k_ i've triyng to load in ram and see actoion replay to locate aproximately where are located on the file
22:04:59 BinoX so it'll return the length of string and not length of variable..
22:05:03 manolo_k_ but i dont know
22:05:55 manolo_k_ yes i just change the string, not the value of the gadget
22:06:22 manolo_k_ i've been trying hexadecimal too, but i am los
22:06:24 manolo_k_ t
22:06:32 nicomen so when you start up SuperEcho does it show new or old value in the gadget?
22:07:13 manolo_k_ for example, the last number is 9 and i convert it to 9 via Hex, it shows 9 but sounds 1
22:07:17 manolo_k_ you know
22:07:29 nicomen http://home.polarboing.com/nicomen/SuperEcho <-- aha ok, so I guess thiw doesn't work either then?
22:07:58 nicomen sorry, now it's up
22:08:47 manolo_k_ now i am on the pc,
22:09:04 manolo_k_ i have 1200 and 500 turned off
22:09:11 manolo_k_ and doesnt have internet
22:09:49 nicomen bah
22:09:51 nicomen hehe
22:09:58 nicomen !seen jahc
22:09:58 GrimReaper jahc was last seen online 8 hours, 8 minutes ago.
22:10:00 MrBot jahc (~jahc@jahc.Amigaworld.Net) was last seen quitting from #amigaworld 8 hours, 8 minutes ago stating (Quit: number6> klesterjr: yes. ok. the cat's {"out} of the bag\". They have finally ported your WB 1.3 disk to PPC.).
22:10:03 manolo_k_ on action replay i've been looking disassembler and looks a possibility, no?
22:10:12 nicomen yes
22:10:35 nicomen probably look for dc.(bwi) with 200/c8 or similar
22:11:03 manolo_k_ i just programmed Macromedia Director and years ago, is that
22:11:24 nicomen time to learn something new ;)
22:11:25 manolo_k_ but it only will changes the memory, no on disk
22:11:40 nicomen yeah, but then you could get a real diassembler
22:11:48 nicomen save the file to disk, and reassemble it
22:11:52 nicomen after changing of course
22:12:01 manolo_k_ and better a solution on 1200 , the program runs on 500, but on 1200 better editing files and this
22:12:08 nicomen true
22:12:17 nicomen and you should get a pcmcia card for your 1200 ,)
22:12:23 manolo_k_ no
22:12:38 manolo_k_ desktop 1200
22:12:48 manolo_k_ really simple
22:13:00 manolo_k_ 68030/16 megas, that yes
22:14:10 nicomen sure, I had pcmcia on my desktop 1200 ;)
22:14:16 nicomen even a 060 and a 3.5 hd
22:15:01 antique nicomen: you know why my addpart doesn't work?
22:15:55 antique nico:AddPart(progs[prognr],fr->rf_File,sizeof(fr->rf_File));
22:16:53 nicomen not sure
22:17:24 nicomen I'd guess it's because you think sizeof finds the size of the contents instead of what it really does, namely the size of the data structure that you are using
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22:18:29 nicomen manolo_k_: you should nag jahc to make you an effect thing, he like playing guitar himself and has already made a drum machine for amiaos 4
22:18:33 nicomen amigaos 4
22:18:37 nicomen he know how to compile for 68k
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22:19:15 nicomen antique: am I far off?
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22:19:49 manolo_k_ nico
22:19:59 BinoX heh.. wb
22:20:01 manolo_k_ i fall, jeje
22:20:01 antique nicomen: probably not,you're the smart one. :) hehe think you're right yes,but what should i use instead?
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22:20:13 BinoX strlen
22:20:26 manolo_k_ nico you told jach?
22:21:35 manolo_k_ ?
22:22:04 nicomen antique: the file struct probably has some size field
22:22:17 antique AddPart(progs[prognr],fr->rf_File,strlen(fr->rf_File));
22:22:44 nicomen BinoX: if the file is a string, file can however contain \0 (a char with the value 0) which will make the string seem shorter than what it really is
22:22:51 nicomen manolo_k_: no
22:23:16 BinoX Well, if it's a directory path like it should be there should be no \0 in the middle of it
22:23:38 BinoX Unless you can have that in folder names
22:24:24 nicomen true, if it's just a filename it should be a normal string
22:24:35 nicomen I know shit about amigaos structures
22:25:25 antique it's a filename,but nothing happens. :(
22:25:55 BinoX are you sure you're populating progs[prognr] correctly?
22:26:07 antique think so.
22:26:25 antique i do: progs[prognr] = fr->rf_Dir;
22:26:29 antique that's ok!
22:26:38 antique and i do the addpart but nothing gets added.
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22:26:57 itix hi
22:27:00 antique hwody
22:27:04 antique howdy
22:27:15 BinoX I think you need strcpy(progs[prognr], fr->rf_Dir); assuming that progs[prognr] is big enough to hold the string
22:27:47 nicomen doesn't AddPart do that for you?
22:27:55 nicomen ask itix, he's the guru ;)
22:28:05 BinoX AddPart just adds a filename to the end of a directory string
22:28:07 antique works without the strcpy. shows me the path from aslfilerequest
22:28:10 BinoX (reading autodocs)
22:28:20 nicomen in the meanwhile (if you have flash) listen to this cool tune: http://morningwoodrocks.com/wettshirt/
22:29:27 BinoX I guess you could just do strcat(progs[prognr], fr->rf_Dir); instead of using AddPart (As long as directory ends with a "/")
22:30:43 BinoX No flash here :\ Unless I switch to windows box... but that's note on atm :(
22:31:26 BinoX not*
22:32:25 BinoX Hmm.. does Apple's (Apple branded expensive stuff) RAM work in an AmigaOne? Or does it depend?
22:33:13 manolo_k_ bye, people of the frienda
22:35:20 nicomen BinoX: if it's sdram and preferably buffered it should work
22:35:48 BinoX Dunno what it is... but I haven't turned the mac on for ages and want to steal it's ram..
22:35:53 nicomen hehe
22:35:58 BinoX I think it's buffered... Will try it 2morrow :D
22:36:08 BinoX Well.. GF calls :) Time for me to pay her some attention
22:36:08 nicomen as long as it fits there is a big chance
22:36:12 BinoX heh yeah :D
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22:36:39 BinoX I'll c ya 2morrow... Off to watch film then go to bed ;)
22:37:31 BinoX I need an amigaone to keep at work.. heh... then I could code during lunch break :\
22:37:33 itix what mac model it is?
22:37:58 BinoX Dual 1GHz G4... Apart from that I dunno... it's in a proper case.. not an iMac
22:38:24 BinoX If only mac megarray cards worked ;)
22:38:37 itix megarray is proprietary
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22:39:14 BinoX heh.. would be nice though.. to have a Dual 1GHz A1 ;)
22:39:49 itix is it powermac?
22:40:20 itix i think they use ddr sdram
22:40:36 itix never had any mac, imo they are all crap :P
22:40:37 BinoX Not.. It's definately DIMMs
22:40:52 BinoX heh.. I got mine as payment for a job.. nice photoshopping machine :)
22:41:27 BinoX Wow... REALLY have to go now... GF is getting impatient ^_^;;
22:41:32 itix DIMM can be SDRAM or DDR
22:41:37 itix well go :)
22:41:46 BinoX Will be back asap :) But probably tomorrow now >_<
22:42:01 BinoX It's not DDR is what I meant... heh.. just know the A1 is fussy on ram
22:42:14   -!- * BinoX runs away
22:43:35 number6 BinoX: No need to run
22:51:43 antique run bitch ,run. hehe
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23:13:42 number6 Hi Varthall
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