Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-03-20

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16:40:27 itix hi
16:40:46 nicomen hi
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17:38:02 MrBot [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;)
17:38:02 racs hi there
17:38:39 racs hm, logged channel? :)
17:38:42 racs what for? :)
17:40:31 zerohero if there's something interesting
17:40:44 zerohero like when nicomen comes here drunk and the police want the log later
17:40:56 zerohero happens way to often btw
17:42:16 racs ;)
17:43:17 zerohero !seen afxgroup
17:43:17 GrimReaper I don't know who afxgroup is.
17:43:19 MrBot afxgroup (andrea@39c049cc.2486bca.pool80183.interbusiness.it) was last seen parting #amigadev 2 days, 18 hours, 1 minute ago stating "{}".
17:47:10 number6 Hmm...that GrimReaper fellow sure doesn't remember very much.
17:48:26 number6 I know what MrBot will say, but I gotta do this to see if the reaper is aware of his own existence...
17:48:38 number6 !seen GrimReaper
17:48:38 GrimReaper You found me, number6!
17:48:39 MrBot number6, GrimReaper is right here!
17:48:46 number6 lol.
17:51:49 racs hm, interesting...
17:52:03 racs why syslog does not work from cygwin compiled programs...
17:54:13 zerohero nicomen: you killed aminet?
17:58:34 nicomen yup
18:22:50 nicomen never tried cygwin
18:23:39 racs nicomen: good for you
18:26:28 zerohero cygwin isn't so bad
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18:44:54 SixK lo
19:04:53 racs http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060320-6417.html
19:05:07 racs ROTFLMAO
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19:15:57 racs gone
19:15:58 racs bye all
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21:31:46 nicomen hi manolo_k_608
21:32:57 manolo_k_608 hi
21:33:08 manolo_k_608 i have kuestions
21:33:10 manolo_k_608 jeje
21:33:15 manolo_k_608 can you help me?
21:33:19 nicomen maybe
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21:33:26 manolo_k_608 i am musician
21:33:29 nicomen ok
21:33:36 manolo_k_608 and i use amiga 500 with technosound turbo 2
21:33:45 manolo_k_608 i use it with superecho
21:33:50 nicomen ok
21:34:01 manolo_k_608 a 18ks program that process the signal audio creating unique delays and pitchs
21:34:17 manolo_k_608 but is very sad entering the numbers manbually
21:34:31 manolo_k_608 i own an action replay mkiii
21:35:01 manolo_k_608 and maybe i can change the numbers on the file code
21:35:07 manolo_k_608 but i am not a coder
21:35:12 manolo_k_608 what can i do?
21:35:34 manolo_k_608 8 gadgets in a window
21:36:43 manolo_k_608 is possible?
21:37:43 nicomen hm
21:37:53 nicomen it doesn't have cli parameters?
21:38:21 manolo_k_608 it opens a window over dos
21:38:36 manolo_k_608 the disk only has this exe
21:38:45 nicomen does superecho.exe ? work?
21:38:45 manolo_k_608 maybe a parallel device
21:39:26 manolo_k_608 http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=superecho
21:43:30 manolo_k_608 are you testing it?
21:43:44 nicomen nope, sorry
21:45:05 manolo_k_608 is possible?
21:45:15 manolo_k_608 seems easy to a coder
21:45:28 nicomen it's probably possible
21:45:31 manolo_k_608 or knowing how to use action replay
21:45:33 nicomen ut I don't have the skills
21:45:39 nicomen but
21:45:53 nicomen I'd probably look for a similar tool that allows calling it from shell
21:46:14 manolo_k_608 you are working now with amiga?
21:46:34 manolo_k_608 excuse my english
21:47:18 nicomen yes
21:47:40 manolo_k_608 can you see the prog?
21:51:13 manolo_k_608 ?
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21:55:49 Ami603 hi there
21:57:04 manolo_k_608 hi
21:57:31 manolo_k_608 can i make you a kuestion?
21:57:51 manolo_k_608  [10:33PM] <manolo_k_608> i am musician
21:58:15 manolo_k_608 and i use amiga 500 with a sampler
21:58:31 manolo_k_608 and a software i want to altere
21:58:36 manolo_k_608 can you help me
21:58:38 manolo_k_608 ?
21:59:13 Ami603 maybe
21:59:26 Ami603 i cannot help much with 68k software though
21:59:56 manolo_k_608 is just change 8 numbers that change the preset
22:00:07 manolo_k_608 http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=superecho
22:00:31 manolo_k_608 do you who can help me, i own action replay mk iii
22:01:16 manolo_k_608 ?
22:03:44 Ami603 i have no idea about what are you trying to do, sorry
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22:04:20 Varthall hi
22:04:25 manolo_k_608 the program is cli and opens a window
22:04:42 manolo_k_608 on the window yo have to enter 8 numbers that have default
22:05:02 Ami603 it crashes under OS4
22:05:11 manolo_k_608 i want to change them on the code , no in the program, just starting the program i have the numbers entered
22:05:28 manolo_k_608 playing the guitar is very hard entering a lot of numbers for eacch preset
22:05:51 manolo_k_608 dont matter if crashes
22:06:04 Ami603 that probably needs changing on the source code
22:06:08 manolo_k_608 changin the numbers in the code is the important thing
22:06:10 manolo_k_608 is possible?
22:06:18 manolo_k_608 i own an acton replay mk ii
22:06:20 manolo_k_608 iii
22:06:24 Ami603 without the actual sourcecode i'm not really sure
22:06:33 manolo_k_608 aja
22:06:50 Ami603 where are you from?
22:07:01 manolo_k_608 i dont know about prgrammin amiga but seems easy, just 8 default numbers
22:07:02 nicomen http://aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/misc/Deverb10.lha
22:07:20 manolo_k_608 ami603, eres del irc?
22:07:20 Varthall I don't think so too, even if with the action reply you might find some function for this
22:07:25 Ami603 si ;)
22:07:34 manolo_k_608 jeje
22:07:37 nicomen manolo_k_608: try using a hex editor and edit the numbers if you find them, might not be easy though
22:07:55 nicomen manolo_k_608: tried contacting the author?
22:07:58 manolo_k_608 thanks, nico, but this reverb dont do the same
22:08:03 Varthall it might be much easier with the action replay
22:08:05 nicomen hehe, it's from 1989, but who knos, maybe he has the source ;)
22:08:10 nicomen manolo_k_608: ok
22:08:11 manolo_k_608 the author doesnt have the code
22:08:14 Varthall with its lives search function
22:08:14 manolo_k_608 what a pitty
22:08:29 nicomen manolo_k_608: should be lots of other programs that can add sound...
22:08:33 nicomen err change sound
22:08:34 manolo_k_608 in the past i tried it
22:08:39 nicomen I noticed an octamed plugin
22:08:53 nicomen and there were several sample editors that let you do cool stuff
22:09:12 manolo_k_608 superecho is really special, really
22:09:31 nicomen http://aminet.net/search.php?path[]=mus&desc=effect
22:09:47 manolo_k_608 the program doesnt has done for musicians but i've found the numbers that corresponds to notes and sounds great
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22:10:45 nicomen http://aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/edit/SOUNDEffect220.lha
22:11:29 Ami603 back in a while, rebooting
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22:14:23 Varthall yesterday I've received the sources for Milkytracker
22:14:50 Varthall the fun now starts :)
22:16:42 nicomen ooh ;)
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22:19:32 manolo_k_ hi again
22:19:38 Varthall hello
22:19:38 manolo_k_ excuse my fall
22:19:43 manolo_k_ and my english
22:19:50 Varthall you're welcome
22:20:27 manolo_k_ the problem is change the numbers in the code to when the program starts you just have to click go
22:20:57 manolo_k_ and i think that with action replay or something you can do it
22:21:04 manolo_k_ but how
22:21:22 Varthall sorry, but I haven't understood well what are you trying to do
22:21:45 manolo_k_ when you start the program
22:21:47 Varthall there's program that requires to enter numbers before pressing OK
22:21:49 Varthall ?
22:21:51 manolo_k_ you have 8 gadgets with numbers
22:21:55 Varthall ok
22:22:16 manolo_k_ you have to change each time this 8 numbers to change your preset
22:22:22 Varthall ok
22:22:24 zerohero the program is from 1989, it's dead
22:22:25 manolo_k_ the prog is small
22:22:26 manolo_k_ 18 ks
22:23:05 manolo_k_ maybe you can start similar programs of superecho that just change the numbers
22:23:48 Varthall similar programs that change the numbers of the program you're speaking about?
22:23:58 Varthall like another program to control the program?
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22:24:06 manolo_k_ yes, its dead but sounds wonderfull with a guitar, emulates pitchs and delays octaves low and high
22:24:12 manolo_k_ delayed
22:24:19 manolo_k_ creating special soundsunique
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22:24:32 nicomen better get jahc to code a new app for you ;)
22:24:44 manolo_k_ but wit a 500?
22:24:49 Varthall or seek for a similar program
22:24:57 nicomen http://aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/edit/SOUNDEffect220.lha
22:25:14 manolo_k_ this program is a sampler
22:25:32 manolo_k_ doest work with audio signal the way superecho, is different
22:26:34 manolo_k_ if is possible to do a new version i have all the info
22:26:39 Varthall I remember that audiomaster 4 did have some realtime echo function for samples coming from a sampler
22:27:07 Varthall you might give it a try
22:27:08 manolo_k_ yes but superecho works with 4 echos at the same time with different pitchs
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22:27:26 Varthall hmm
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22:27:56 Varthall your best bet would be to try to code something similar with AMOS
22:28:09 Varthall or, better, with Blitz Basic
22:28:13 manolo_k_ but seems more easy to change that 8 numbers
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22:28:49 manolo_k_ who can help me?
22:28:54 manolo_k_ amiga 500 coder?
22:28:55 Varthall but are these 8 numbers static? do they change? can you edit them?
22:29:09 manolo_k_ can you edit , but each time
22:29:33 Varthall you don't like the default numbers then?
22:29:44 manolo_k_ i paly guitar, i am not a prgrameer, recording or playin live
22:29:52 Varthall (where are you from by the way?)
22:29:56 manolo_k_ is very hard to enter numbers
22:30:04 manolo_k_ spain
22:30:10 manolo_k_ like ami603
22:30:14 Varthall aha
22:30:19 Varthall mi son italian
22:30:27 manolo_k_ hola
22:30:27 Varthall ma non so se se capimo :)
22:30:37 manolo_k_ i have to go, is late and i am out of home
22:30:37 itix it is possible by disassembling program and finding default values, edit them and recompile
22:30:46 manolo_k_ maybe
22:30:48 Varthall hmm eah
22:30:50 Varthall yeah
22:30:53 itix but you must find willing programmer and i'm not one :)
22:30:57 manolo_k_ if you have a solution pleas email me
22:31:04 Varthall try to find a disassembler
22:31:16 Varthall better to post on amigaworld
22:31:18 manolo_k_ i have an action replay mk iii
22:31:27 Varthall make a post on amigaworld.net
22:31:35 Varthall in the forum
22:31:51 itix it is years when i used action replay on amiga...
22:31:55 itix well that can be used too
22:32:06 itix just load binary and disassemble file in action replay...
22:32:15 Varthall I was thinking of its "search lives" function...
22:32:26 itix but it really needs some coding skills and knowledge to proper disassembling
22:32:30 itix you must be able to assemble it again
22:32:36 Varthall you start logging with the action replay
22:33:03 Varthall then change the numbers
22:33:18 Varthall then check with the crtion to find the numbers that have changed
22:33:26 Varthall crtion = action
22:33:31 manolo_k_ thanks to all
22:33:34 manolo_k_ amiga rulez
22:33:37 Varthall modify the values and save all
22:33:41 Varthall try this
22:33:48 itix amiga ruulz
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22:34:36 nicomen got it working?
22:34:41 nicomen I'm about to ire up hex
22:34:44 nicomen editor
22:34:47 Varthall me?
22:34:49 nicomen he
22:34:55 Varthall hmm no
22:35:00 Varthall but he has left
22:35:13 itix but he gave his email address
22:35:26 itix *manolo_k_* if you find a solution pleas email me
22:35:27 nicomen where?
22:35:29 itix *manolo_k_* manolo_k_@yahoomail.com
22:35:41 itix i knew it was mistake to say anything
22:35:46 itix he gave his email address in query
22:36:03 itix i dont have time to dig old 68k programs
22:36:08 Varthall well, it might be easy to fix this
22:36:14 itix it is easy
22:36:18 Varthall but I'm focused on PPC, too
22:36:50 nicomen itix: how?
22:37:19 itix nicomen: get ira and disassemble program, find values and rebuild
22:37:24 nicomen I'm trying to think of a way to make it configurable
22:37:29 nicomen without too much work ;)
22:37:51 nicomen Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:
22:37:51 nicomen 
22:37:51 nicomen  Recipient address: manolo_k_@yahoomail.com
22:37:52 nicomen  Reason: Illegal host/domain name found
22:38:13 itix i guess it is yahoo.com
22:38:32 nicomen let' try
22:38:51 itix i have couple of spam addresses at yahoo and they end @yahoo.com
22:42:39 itix of course.. if you have disassembled the program you can develop it in assembly ;)
22:42:44 itix i did that for playsid.library
22:42:52 itix created my own 020+ optimized version
22:43:04 itix only to find out source code was available for free :))
22:43:19 zerohero lol
22:44:30 Varthall lol
22:45:12 Varthall I loved when Koljonen made an Aos1.3-compatible patch within Hippoplayer for the 2.0+ only playsid.library
22:45:50 itix i thought playsid.library always worked on 1.3?
22:46:12 itix i'm pretty sure i played sid tunes on my trusty a500
22:46:31 itix oh boy those were times... ;)
22:46:34 Varthall nope, it was 2.0 only
22:46:59 Varthall the only 1.3 version was the one included in the "the 100 most remembered c64 tunes"
22:47:18 Varthall don't know if it was already in library form
22:47:35 itix hmm
22:48:13 itix could be i remember wrong and it was a600
22:49:18 nicomen ok, seems to work just fine by simply using a hex editor
22:49:26 nicomen anyone can recommend a hex editor for 1.3? ;)
22:50:56 Varthall huh, already done? great!
22:51:43 itix i know plenty but i think none of them work on 1.3 anymore ;)
22:53:07 Varthall I used to use S.I.M. on my a500, but that was a system monitor rather that a simple hex editor
22:53:59 nicomen I guess I'll just usse the search thing on aminet then...
22:54:20 nicomen http://aminet.net/package.php?package=disk/moni/HexED.lha
22:57:11 nicomen ooh
22:57:12 nicomen - Edit files yourself or execute a patch made by someone else
22:57:16 nicomen http://aminet.net/package.php?package=disk/moni/FileMasterEd.lha
22:57:23 nicomen well, plenty of opportunities
22:59:35 Varthall yep
22:59:45 Varthall I'll be back in a moment
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23:21:09 itix n8
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