Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-03-13

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00:02:25 ssolie gcc -E -dD seems to do the trick..
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00:12:09 BinoX I am cleeeeaaannn :)
00:13:20   -!- Ami603[AW] is now known as Ami603[zZz]
00:13:23 Ami603[zZz] good night guys
00:13:35 Ami603[zZz] BinoX: seems you're progressing ;)
00:13:59 BinoX Nite Ami603 yeah.. I'm getting there... Had to use Picasso96 in the end to get true color :)
00:14:07 Ami603[zZz] way to go
00:14:21 Ami603[zZz] ok, i'm off to bed, the wife is eager ;)
00:14:28 BinoX heh... Have fun ;)
00:15:18 BinoX If there's still anyone around.. do U know how I can write to the com port? I'd like to use it to debug stuff so I don't have many lines of printfed crap
00:15:45 BinoX plus moving stuff out the way so I can see the console isn't always easy :p
00:17:09 BinoX Especially when I have IRC, code, console, SDK browser, folders of docs and a webpage open.. lol
00:17:14 zerohero IExec->DebugPrintF()
00:17:24 BinoX Ooh.. DebugPrintF
00:17:29 BinoX Thanks :)
00:17:33 zerohero :)
00:17:42 BinoX So obvious.. lol
00:17:46 zerohero hehe
00:18:08 BinoX I'll put that in tomorrow..
00:18:19 BinoX Is it any faster than console output out of interest?
00:18:54 zerohero no idea, haven't checked
00:19:20 zerohero i've used it in situations where printf()'s aren't available
00:19:43 BinoX full screen apps and stuff?
00:19:56 zerohero nah, modules and libraries
00:20:19 BinoX Oh, cool... just how DO you write a library? lol
00:20:36 zerohero there's a pdf about it in the sdk
00:20:42 zerohero libraries and devices
00:20:53 BinoX oh yah.. I printed that out... now where did I leave it? lol
00:20:56 zerohero also idltool will be of help
00:21:01 zerohero big help
00:21:15 BinoX thx ^_^
00:21:18 zerohero clib2 also contains a shell library
00:21:34 zerohero http://sourceforge.net/projects/clib2/
00:21:41 zerohero it's in cvs somewhere
00:21:45 BinoX Was thinking of writing my prog in libraries and using it as a kind of weird plugin system
00:22:26 zerohero this would probably be the way to write plugins --> http://main.aminet.net/package.php?package=dev/c/PluginDemo.lha
00:22:40 zerohero it's for 68k, but can easily be adapted to os4
00:22:49 BinoX isn't that that really complex thing? lol
00:23:07 zerohero libraries shouldn't be used if you aren't makeing something useful for every developer :)
00:23:20 zerohero not sure about complex
00:23:23 AMiGR if it's sending to the serial port
00:23:27 AMiGR not only is not faster
00:23:28 zerohero even i managed to solve it
00:23:29 BinoX Well, they'd be useful for all my progs... heh ^_^;;;
00:23:38 AMiGR but it's gonna be nailing your system
00:23:48 AMiGR if you're flooding the serial port with output
00:24:13 BinoX heh... ah well.. I'll be the only one using it :)
00:24:16 zerohero AMiGR: yes, but the q was if it was faster than console output
00:24:25 zerohero AMiGR: and that's not very fast either :)
00:25:06 AMiGR zerohero: CON is slow but at least it's not grinding your system to death
00:25:14 BinoX oh well.. lol.. it's better than using printf anyway... 'cause I can at lease see it on another screen and not look for it.. lol
00:25:19 AMiGR or, at least, MUICON: does not
00:25:39 zerohero AMiGR: nah, not on os4 either, just the con: that's slow :)
00:26:24 AMiGR zerohero: after a year of inactivity, I set up my morphos machine again, updating and fixing everything
00:26:28 AMiGR as soon as I finished doing it
00:26:32 AMiGR my hard drive died
00:26:33 AMiGR ARGH
00:26:37 zerohero ouch
00:26:41   -!- * BinoX thinks the plugin example will require printing and looking at ^_^;;
00:26:47 BinoX Seems like bathroom reading... lol
00:26:49 AMiGR no data loss, I'd backed everything up
00:26:58 AMiGR but lost all the updates and shit
00:27:02 zerohero BinoX: i had to learn it, a program i ported used something similar :)
00:27:11 zerohero AMiGR: annoying to say the least
00:27:18 AMiGR yeah...
00:27:23 AMiGR anyway
00:27:24 AMiGR zzz
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00:28:12 BinoX Well, it'll be useful... Means I can seperate out the program a lot more easily :)
00:48:15 BinoX jeeeeez.. This is rather complicated.. But I'm slowly getting the idea.. lol..... slowly...
00:51:56 BinoX well.. off to sleep now... nite all :)
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06:46:14 Ami603[zZz] morning
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06:49:42 nicomen morning
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09:48:26 afxgroupWORK hi
09:48:31 nicomen hi
09:48:41 afxgroupWORK Orgin is here?
09:49:02 Belxjander hi there afx
09:49:34 afxgroupWORK :)
10:26:28 afxgroupWORK os4depot has problems today..
10:31:30 afxgroupWORK many problems..
10:39:35 afxgroupWORK later
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16:11:27 nicomen hi m3x ;)
16:14:42 m3x hi nicomen :-)
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16:57:51 MrBot [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;)
16:57:51 racs hi
16:58:47 nicomen hey
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19:28:41 BinoX Hey all :)
19:31:00 zerohero evening :)
19:31:32 BinoX Do u know if there's any way to tell if your program is the active window?
19:32:24 zerohero i think there's a idcmp event for that
19:32:41 BinoX I'm making a skinning system.. and it has active and inactive skins
19:33:47 zerohero IDCMP_ACTIVEWINDOW
19:33:52 BinoX Ah :D
19:33:54 BinoX Thanks
19:34:01 zerohero but that only detect when your window goes active
19:34:04 zerohero +s
19:34:08 BinoX oh
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19:34:30 BinoX Well, maybe there's one for inactive too... heh
19:34:40 BinoX and I'd guess there's one for resizing as well..
19:34:46 SixK lo
19:35:13 BinoX hi
19:35:39 zerohero hey SixK
19:35:56 SixK lo zerohero
19:36:12 BinoX IDCMP_INACTIVEWINDOW :D
19:36:20 zerohero heh
19:37:20 BinoX I'mm make a wild guess with IDCMP_RESIZE lol
19:37:38 BinoX I'll*
19:39:34 BinoX Hmm.. that one doesn't seem to exist :\
19:40:26 BinoX Maybe it's something to do with IDCMP_CHANGEWINDOW
19:40:39 zerohero #define IDCMP_NEWSIZE 0x00000002L
19:40:48 BinoX NEWSIZE lol
19:40:50 BinoX damn
19:40:54 BinoX I'm so st00pid
19:40:58 BinoX thanks
19:41:02 zerohero #define IDCMP_SIZEVERIFY 0x00000001L
19:41:11 zerohero not sure what the second one does really
19:41:53 BinoX Perhaps it only works when the window has finished resizing?
19:42:45 BinoX Well.. I'll find out with experimentation :D
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20:00:17 itix hi
20:01:08 BinoX hey
20:01:44 nicomen hi
20:02:31 BinoX Hmm.. time to merge old GUI.c and GUIBuild.c
20:04:08 BinoX Or maybe I'll do it later.. lol
20:04:23 BinoX Think I might play heretic 2.. lol
20:04:28 BinoX :D
20:08:26 nicomen booo
20:09:51 BinoX Why r u booing me? lol
20:09:55 BinoX I haven't gone yet
20:10:39 BinoX I think I'm obsessed... was sketching a way to render images.. lol
20:10:42 BinoX Really gone now though :p
20:11:35 racs gone
20:11:37 racs bye all
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21:34:37 BinoX What's the OS4 equivalent of GetMsg? (for IDCMP window events)
21:35:32 nicomen IExec->GetMsg() ?
21:35:38 nicomen if that's what you mean by equivalent
21:35:50 BinoX Yes.. heh.. Couldn;t work out what it would go with.. thx
21:36:04 nicomen grep is your friend
21:36:11 BinoX ^_^;;;
21:36:20 zerohero or #amigadev ;D
21:36:23 nicomen haha
21:36:25 BinoX lol :D
21:36:44 nicomen ok, grep is my friend, and I'm a friend of #amigadev which in turn is BinoX' friend
21:36:48 nicomen sigh...
21:36:55 nicomen better?
21:36:56 BinoX lol that works :D
21:36:56 nicomen ;D
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22:41:27 AMiGR nicomen: nah, too complicated, RTFN-EM is better
22:41:28 AMiGR :-P
22:41:58 AMiGR so, in this case, RTFAD should be enough
22:42:19 AMiGR (read the f*cking non-existing manual and read the f*cking autodoc
22:42:19 AMiGR )
22:42:21 AMiGR ;
22:43:51 nicomen ehe
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23:37:26 AMiGR does anyone have a win32 compiler handy?
23:37:36 AMiGR I need a simple C program to be compiled
23:38:31 nicomen heh, sudo aptitude install mingw32 mingw32-binutils mingw32-runtime
23:39:45 AMiGR nicomen: screw it, found someone already
23:39:45 AMiGR ;-)
23:40:12 nicomen I'd rather not fornicate with software packages
23:40:23 AMiGR lol