Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-02-19

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01:30:19 zerohero jahc: hey, really good job with wookie now
01:30:27 jahc zerohero: thanks
01:30:31 zerohero jahc: love the nick completion
01:30:31 jahc whats good about it though?
01:30:43 zerohero i just told you ;)
01:30:58 jahc ok hehe
01:31:07 zerohero also the columns are good now
01:31:16 jahc yes, thanks for the heads up on that. weight -1 etc
01:31:47 zerohero as long as i'm mentioned in the guide ;D
01:32:14 zerohero <-- been hooked on freespace for a while now
01:32:17 zerohero great game
01:34:37 jahc cool.
01:36:24 zerohero hmm
01:36:35 zerohero i didn't have a fixed font in wc, bad
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09:11:18 kas1e hi all
09:12:33 nicomen hi
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09:25:31 ^kas1e hi
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09:25:44 ^kas1e mm.. who is kas1e ?:)
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11:37:10 crazyhair hi
11:37:14 crazyhair oops
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15:57:39 antique anyone awake?
16:03:07 nicomen Y
16:03:37 antique :)
16:03:48 antique not watching the olympics?
16:04:18 nicomen anything on now?
16:04:45 antique yes,1000metres women
16:05:11 nicomen in what?
16:05:25 antique skøyter
16:05:49 antique have you used the execute() ?
16:06:29 antique when i do execute("ram:poolman.tmp,0,0") i get file is not executable
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16:07:02 afxgroup hi
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16:07:45 nicomen dos.doc: Execute -- Execute a CLI command
16:07:45 nicomen dos.doc: success = Execute( commandString, input, output )
16:08:44 nicomen  INPUTS
16:08:44 nicomen  commandString - pointer to a null-terminated string
16:08:44 nicomen  input - BCPL pointer to a file handle
16:08:44 nicomen  output - BCPL pointer to a file handle
16:09:38 nicomen so success = Execute("ram:poolman.tmp",0,0); should work
16:09:55 nicomen except you might need to drop the ram: and cd to ram: first
16:10:19 nicomen hi afxgroup
16:10:45 afxgroup !lastspoke Orgin
16:10:56 afxgroup uff..
16:11:00 afxgroup ORGIN!!!!
16:11:41 zerohero nico, andrea, whoever is awake
16:11:58 afxgroup hi zerohero
16:12:29 zerohero afxgroup: asked you the other day, didn't see an answer..
16:12:40 zerohero afxgroup: didn't you tryto port cdrecord once+
16:12:41 afxgroup what? don't remember
16:12:43 zerohero ?
16:12:46 afxgroup ah.. ok
16:12:59 afxgroup just a few minutes.. downloading something to os4depot first
16:13:04 zerohero OK
16:13:10 zerohero -caps lock
16:13:54 nicomen hi zero
16:14:52 zerohero !seen nicomen's sdk
16:14:53 GrimReaper I don't know who nicomen's is.
16:14:54 MrBot zerohero, I don't remember seeing nicomen's.
16:15:01 zerohero pfft :D
16:15:18 nicomen what about it?
16:15:45 zerohero since we got upd4 now, have to nag you about the sdk ;)
16:15:48 nicomen btw. are there any specifics that you are unsatisifed with in the SK?
16:15:52 nicomen SDK
16:16:05 zerohero not really, i'm plenty satisfied :)
16:16:14 nicomen oh
16:16:21 nicomen but why do you want an update?
16:16:24 nicomen nothin in particular?
16:16:51 zerohero nope, i don't need an update as it is
16:17:07 zerohero it's always fun getting updates tho :)
16:24:06 zerohero afxgroup: i was just wondering if you managed to port cdrecord or if there was some problems with it?
16:26:03 afxgroup no prob with cdrecord. is dvdrecord that doesn't work
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16:27:01 GrimReaper jahc was last seen online 8 hours, 51 minutes ago.
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16:29:19 zerohero afxgroup: ok, is cdrecord released? didn't find it on os4depot
16:29:30 zerohero afxgroup: i only found mkisofs
16:31:00 afxgroup no. it isn't
16:31:16 zerohero ok :)
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16:54:35 MrBot [racs] Pimp my flowers! ;)
16:54:36 racs hi there
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17:08:57 freaks afxgroup you're there?
17:09:21 freaks i think there's a problem with wesnoth you uploaded on os4depot
17:09:59 freaks the exe icon info report it's a "project" and it refuse to get loaded?
17:10:30 freaks i converted it to "tool" icon option, and had the check the execute flag
17:10:41 freaks *had to chack
17:10:46 freaks had to check
17:11:21 freaks still it refuse to get loaded, a requester popup and ask me to assign ETC:
17:12:01 freaks i looked at snoopdos, paths look unix-ish
17:12:29 freaks and it can't find it's own files, like fonts.cfg
17:12:38 freaks #?.cfg in fact
17:13:13 freaks how the heck you run the game ? :)
17:13:13 freaks anyone , a clue ?
17:13:45 antique i have no idea. :/ sorry
17:14:07 zerohero orgin*: wake up
17:14:38 zerohero orgin*: why does os4depot upload to aminet even tho i tell it not to?
17:15:03 zerohero orgin*: this time it overwrote xpk_User archive, the 68k version
17:15:24 nicomen ;(
17:15:47 zerohero nicomen: i have the original archive somewhere, give me some time to find it
17:16:26 zerohero i specfically double checked that it shouldn't upload to aminet since i knew it would overwrite the original archive
17:16:49 nicomen err, but why do you wnt one copy on aminet and one on os4depot?
17:16:49 zerohero nicomen: can you check when xpk_user.lha was uploaded btw?
17:16:57 nicomen that differs
17:17:26 zerohero nicomen: os4depot is os4 version, that i ported, i didn't integrate it into the main archive
17:17:52 Orgin_With_Cold zerohero: We've discussed this before. Please use another browser.
17:18:19 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: i've used both aweb and ibrowse now, both with the same result
17:18:19 Belxjander here goes nothing
17:18:27 Belxjander seems I am ultimately stuck with trying to get AROS working without using grub...
17:18:32 Belxjander anyone able to help me with that ?
17:18:33 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: and they both worked with your test page
17:18:42 Orgin_With_Cold zerohero: well, my code does what the test code does.
17:18:49 nicomen Belxjander: I only run it hosted
17:19:14 antique zero: how can i remove the first letter in my buffer string? is there a command to do this the easy way?
17:19:30 Belxjander nicomen: Ive had that option pointed out to me however I have already tried it...
17:19:42 Belxjander nicomen: segfault maniac when hosted here :/
17:20:10 zerohero antique: no, there are a few simple tricks to do it tho, make a pointer to it and do pointer++; then it points to the next letter
17:20:37 antique ok! will try that. :)
17:20:53 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: so not uploading to os4depot would seem to be the best option then?
17:20:58 Belxjander antique: do you know the string length that you are dealing with?
17:21:10 Orgin_With_Cold zerohero: Or find out what the problem is at your end.
17:21:47 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: so you're telling me both aweb and ibrowse are broken?
17:21:58 antique belxjander: no, something you're thinking of? :)
17:22:48 Belxjander antique: just a quick for() loop to cover cutting off the first "n" characters from your string
17:22:57 nicomen http://aminet.net/search.php?query=xpk_user
17:23:05 nicomen zerohero: fixed
17:23:21 zerohero nicomen: ah, great, thanks a lot
17:23:33 Orgin_With_Cold zerohero: Something is wrong in your end yes. Ibrowse works here, just tried from os4. I even selected to replace your file and did not click the aminet checkbox. How do you suppose I figure out what's wrong when you do it?
17:23:34 nicomen np
17:23:38 antique belxjander: that could work yes. Will try that. :)
17:24:17 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: are you going to be here later? dinner now, if you're still here we can do a testcase...
17:24:20 zerohero *off*
17:25:02 Belxjander antique: since if you start with two pointers to your string... have a quick loop of "for(cnt=0;cnt<CUT_N_BYTES;cnt++) fptr++;" followed by another one for doing the byte relocations...
17:28:44 Orgin_With_Cold Just tried in aweb too. Works.
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18:02:46 racs "for(cnt=0;cnt<CUT_N_BYTES;cnt++) fptr++;"???
18:02:51 racs what is the use of this?
18:03:10 racs why not "fptr+=CUT_N_BYTES"?
18:09:12 antique racs: help for me to get rid of unwanted text in my string.
18:09:42 racs antique: but why an iteration? it does nothing in the loop core
18:10:25 antique racs: ?? i'm the one who needed the help. :) hehe
18:13:54 antique racs: working on another solution. Need to remove the first character in my string.
18:16:09 antique zerohero: well,found a solution to remove the first character. :)
18:23:33 antique nicomen: fixed the execute() was quite easy :)
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18:36:47 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: you there?
18:38:00 antique zerohero: found a simple trix to remove the first character. :)
18:38:09 zerohero antique: good :)
18:38:27 Orgin_With_Cold i am here
18:38:31 antique zerohero: me thinks so too. :)
18:39:03 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: can i upload a test file with ibrowse, and you check where it's going?
18:39:13 Orgin_With_Cold sure
18:40:13 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: ok, ib upload done
18:40:25 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: trying one with aweb now, as well, ok?
18:40:36 racs antique: never heard of pointer arithmetics?
18:40:46 Orgin_With_Cold That one did not go to aminet.
18:40:56 antique racs: nope. hehe.
18:41:42 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: second one uploaded now
18:41:51 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: with aweb
18:41:59 Orgin_With_Cold blah2 did not go to aminet either
18:42:18 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: then i'm not at fault here
18:42:44 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: i know, i dublechecked, that it wasn't supposed to go to aminet
18:42:48 zerohero +o
18:44:39 Orgin_With_Cold Then whos fault do you suggest it is?
18:44:53 zerohero no idea, but i'm 100% sure it wasn't me
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18:45:06 SixK lo
18:45:19 zerohero evening SixK
18:45:28 Orgin_With_Cold well, the code hasn't changed. It works for everyone else. It works for me and it works for you.
18:45:40 zerohero nicomen: can you check who uploaded xpk_user? can you check the ip?
18:45:52 SixK hi zerohero
18:48:09 number6 Orgin and zerohero: BOTH the xpk_user5.2a (68k) and xpk_User (OS4 PPC native) are on Aminet. The 68k archive DOES have the xpkmaster.libary inside in two flavors.
18:48:54 number6 http://aminet.net/search.php?query=xpk&start=100
18:48:59 Orgin_With_Cold number6: Yeah, and how's the weather?
18:49:48 nicomen number6: maybe you read something into it ;)
18:50:19 nicomen zerohero: yes I can, priv?
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18:50:38 nicomen Wed Feb 1 21:57:56 2006 9 217.80.93.87 129970 /new/xpk_user.lha b _ i a <no_password> ftp 0 * c
18:50:41 nicomen Wed Feb 1 21:57:58 2006 1 217.80.93.87 2080 /new/xpk_user.readme b _ i a <no_password> ftp 0 * c
18:50:44 nicomen oh well
18:51:39 zerohero nicomen: what does that mean?
18:52:01 nicomen upload ip and date and size etc.
18:52:12 zerohero 217.80.93.87 is that the old os4depot?
18:52:26 nicomen don't think so
18:52:30 Orgin_With_Cold no
18:52:34 zerohero hmm
18:52:41 Orgin_With_Cold and teh ftp code states a password
18:52:43 nicomen seems like a german user
18:52:49 zerohero bah
18:52:52 zerohero idiots
18:52:59 nicomen Orgin_With_Cold: good luck with that btw ;)
18:53:33 nicomen it doesn't ask for password if logging in anonymously
18:53:45 Orgin_With_Cold well, it states one anyway.
18:54:17 Orgin_With_Cold  $login_result = ftp_login($conn_id, $username, $password);
18:55:27 zerohero so, we have idiots uploading other people stuff
18:55:33 nicomen guess php only sends it if queried (or silently accepts an error of command not found)
18:55:37 zerohero overwriting important stuff on aminet
18:55:39 zerohero great
18:55:57 nicomen zerohero: well, in this case it seemed like the correct thing to do
18:56:40 zerohero nicomen: why? the filename was the same and my upload only included the os4 version?
18:57:00 zerohero nicomen: and if i wanted it on aminet i could probably fix that myself, right?
18:57:54 nicomen would think so
18:58:19 nicomen anyway, the reason it didn't light any warning signs was due to the difference in casing I think
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18:59:10 nicomen should fix that promptly
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18:59:48 ssolie nicomen: got a problem with aminet?
19:00:54 nicomen well, someone has uploaded zerohero's upload to os4depot to aminet
19:01:30 nicomen he blamed orgin's scripts for not working properly, as he didnt check the "upload to aminet" tick
19:02:12 nicomen I was asked to check the ip of the uploader of the one to aminet and iit shows it was someone else and not either zerohero or ogin's server
19:02:44 nicomen so probably someone doing like you do ;) uploading whatever is missing on one to the other ;)
19:03:13 nicomen anyway, normally when packages are named the same, they warn the moderator so that he checks properly if it can be replaced
19:03:25 nicomen the script seems to not kick in when the names are identical, but differ in casing
19:04:21 zerohero nicomen: i did name my archive identical from the beginning tho
19:04:38 ssolie nicomen: one would expect the computer to warn the uploader when the name is the same..
19:04:43 zerohero so at least i know he downloaded the archive from os4depot ;)
19:04:47 afxgroup Orgin_With_Cold: here?
19:04:56 Orgin_With_Cold afxgroup: yeah
19:05:24 afxgroup please.. repack the data files of wesnoth adding a data dir and put all archive content into.. :(
19:05:26 Orgin_With_Cold nicomen: what was the ip again?
19:05:30 nicomen zerohero: well, maybe that's not a good idea to start with, but anyway, it seems the lower-casing is from downloading it from os4depot
19:05:52 nicomen ssolie: via ftp?
19:06:13 zerohero nicomen: but that's what it is
19:06:27 Orgin_With_Cold afxgroup: Would probably take me as long as it would take you to do it plus upload.
19:06:37 ssolie nicomen: no matter the method one would expect a computer to warn the user in this day and age
19:06:52 afxgroup Orgin_With_Cold: ok. i'll do it
19:08:05 zerohero ssolie: btw, if i use iexec->availmem() does it show the same value for memf_chip and memf_fast?
19:08:07 Orgin_With_Cold zerohero: I have the download entry from that IP in teh download logs.
19:08:26 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: i would expect you to :)
19:08:35 Orgin_With_Cold 1138811858 utility/archive/xpk_user.lha 130105 1561 20060201-07.01 5.2 :217.80.93.87 (7)
19:08:38 ssolie zerohero: yes but there is no CHIP or FAST in OS4
19:08:45 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: didn't mean to blame you, but i was sure it wasn't me
19:09:41 Orgin_With_Cold Only archive that IP has downloaded.
19:09:42 zerohero ssolie: ok, so using either would be enough?
19:09:52 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: wierd?
19:10:02 Orgin_With_Cold If wegster was online I could get a username to that IP.
19:10:10 ssolie zerohero: enough for what I don't know because it is useless in OS4
19:10:15 zerohero ssolie: is there an equivalent, ie memf_free?
19:10:34 zerohero ssolie: i want the free memory
19:10:44 ssolie zerohero: not an easy thing to determine
19:10:57 zerohero ssolie: and availmem() is for?
19:11:00 ssolie zerohero: what type of free memory are you talkinga bout?
19:11:28 zerohero ssolie: memory after flushing libs, fonts and devices
19:11:42 zerohero ssolie: flush.lha @ os4depot
19:11:51 Orgin_With_Cold zerohero: perhaps that was the intention, to discredit me.
19:11:52 ssolie zerohero: so you want to know how much mem is left for user applications?
19:11:55 zerohero ssolie: it shows fastmem and chipmem, but they're wrong
19:12:08 afxgroup Orgin_With_Cold: is 43MB...
19:12:15 zerohero Orgin_With_Cold: i hope not...
19:12:18 Orgin_With_Cold afxgroup: Nice.
19:12:33 zerohero ssolie: yes, something like that
19:13:02 ssolie zerohero: MEMF_VIRTUAL is probably closest right now
19:13:14 ssolie zerohero: it will change with the mem system but is good enough for now
19:13:18 zerohero ssolie: ok, i'll check that
19:13:36 ssolie zerohero: that does not include mem left for programs that require MEMF_PUBLIC RAM however
19:13:53 ssolie zerohero: but then programs that use PUBLIC also use other types of memory
19:14:02 ssolie zerohero: you can see how this gets complicated..
19:14:59 zerohero ssolie: yes
19:15:12 zerohero ssolie: what does c:avail use?
19:15:23 ssolie zerohero: I don't honestly know
19:15:42 ssolie zerohero: maybe just display all the different combinations and let the user figure it out :)
19:15:59 zerohero ssolie: it displays the available free mem
19:16:17 zerohero but chip and fast is the same
19:16:28 zerohero and has a row for virtual
19:16:31 zerohero ok
19:16:43 zerohero that would be same as me, with added virtual
19:21:05 afxgroup Orgin_With_Cold: the file is coming.. pls commit it. must go now. see you later.
19:21:19 Orgin_With_Cold afxgroup: see ya
19:22:21 antique need help: When i use execute("execute poolman.tmp",0,0); then i my program will halt til the program that will be started in poolman.tmp is closed. How to fix that it doesn't halt?
19:24:51 racs gone now
19:24:52 racs bye all
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19:26:05 zerohero antique: how do you do it in a shell?
19:26:30 antique just put a run in front
19:27:29 Orgin_With_Cold script1 -> execute poolmap.tmp execute("run script1",0,0); ?
19:28:10 Orgin_With_Cold or does "run execute params" actually work too?
19:31:36 antique Execute("run execute RAM:Poolman.tmp",0,0);
19:33:02 antique it starts the content of poolman,AFTER i have closed my program.. ???
19:33:09 antique .tmp
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21:04:38 nicomen antique: maybe t waits for input? since the stdin is 0 ?
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22:00:54 kindergip ssolie
22:01:01 kindergip all is forgiven
22:01:55 ssolie ok.. I don't even remember why you wanted to bbq me :)
22:02:42 kindergip pagestream and photogenics are working again.....
22:03:09 kindergip ced, yam, newscoaster, newsrog etc are reinstalled
22:03:20 kindergip and I've forgotten what else I am missing
22:03:30 kindergip that couldn't be recovered
22:03:39 number6 kindergip: A browser maybe?
22:03:43 ssolie ah yes, the reinstall.. good practice for the final version :)
22:04:31 kindergip final versin gets a new drive
22:04:53 kindergip never had one number6 just aweb
22:05:00 number6 lol
22:05:46 kindergip oh, solaris box with 19" pro series viewsonic does for my browsing using solaris mozilla thingy
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22:51:21 jahc I have a bunch of C++ classes .. does C++ call the destructor for each object automatically when the program ends?
22:52:21 ssolie more precisely, C++ calls the destructor for each class when the object is deleted
22:52:27 ssolie sorry, each object
22:52:51 ssolie if the object is stack-based it will happen automatically when the object goes out of scope
22:53:00 ssolie if the object is heap based you must call delete at some point
22:55:17 jahc how do you know if its heap based or stack based?
22:55:51 jahc nevermind, I just did manual cleaning up in my cleanexit() function
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23:24:58 jahc I found slight stability issues when loading and reloading rockbeat.. I've been quitting and reloading testing changes for about 25 minutes now
23:25:06 jahc must have reloaded about 10 times
23:25:08 jahc seems to be ok now..
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23:26:00 jahc kicko pointed out i wasnt freeing my drum samples after quitting
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