Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-01-30

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00:01:04 zerohero not sure what vsnprintf vs snprintf should do
00:01:06 zerohero so not sure
00:01:15 zerohero not in the autodocs
00:01:23 zerohero utility.library/VSNPrintf
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00:51:14 zerohero hmm
00:51:31 zerohero 2 modules done, 1 kind of works
00:51:42 zerohero getting there :)
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05:45:47 MrBot [hnl_dk] hnl_dk
05:47:05 hnl_dk Hello :-)
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09:28:55 zerohero yay
09:29:05 zerohero depthmenu uploaded to os4depot
09:29:14 zerohero modules now working, 3 of them included :)
09:29:44 Belxjander zerohero: thats neat :)
09:30:00 Belxjander zerohero: Im looking forward to finally getting some kind of "Amiga-alike" system working myself
09:30:28 zerohero Belxjander: yeah, hopefully something will turn up that's actually buyable for a while...
09:36:01 Belxjander especially since I am personally going to have to check out some kind of E-UAE on AROS style setup
09:36:09 Belxjander unless I manage to sort out something better
09:38:11 zerohero yeah, hopefully aros will be usable in the near future
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10:02:46 jahc hi guys
10:03:14 zerohero hey jahc
10:05:34 jahc hows things going zero?
10:05:36 jahc coding anything cool?
10:05:59 zerohero been doing some depthmenu stuff
10:06:09 zerohero uploaded to os4depot
10:06:18 zerohero got 3 of the modules to work
10:07:17 zerohero also ported most of xpk_user archive
10:07:37 zerohero all the c tools work at least, and everything but the menus in the prefs program
10:07:50 zerohero not that it's useful in anyway, but still ;)
10:09:20 zerohero and you?
10:11:57 jahc I'm trying to add DCC CHAT to wookie
10:12:24 jahc I've got incoming working.... there seems to be stability issues sometimes, but I havent tested heavily
10:12:41 jahc I gotta add outgoing now..
10:13:25 jahc what does your depthmenu do differently to the os4 depthmenu style commodity?
10:13:42 zerohero it can handle plugins
10:13:50 jahc oh ok. what sort of plugins?
10:14:09 zerohero ie the the screentype plugin shows [pub] in front of pubscreens
10:14:51 zerohero the workbench plugin, shows "WB Volume (volumename)" and "WB Drawer (drawername)" as it is now
10:15:12 zerohero the dopus4 plugin shows "DOpus" instead of the real name of the dopus window
10:15:22 jahc oh ok.
10:15:26 zerohero and same goes for dopus screen
10:15:35 zerohero just small things
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14:30:57 zerohero number6: afternoon :)
14:31:26 hnl_dk Hi'
14:31:32 number6 Hi all
15:35:23 hnl_dk to all: abc-shell 0.0.38 has just been released!
15:36:32 nicomen nice ;)
15:37:13 hnl_dk ;-)
15:43:09 nicomen hnl_dk: you write that you have uploaded to aminet, but can't see it in the queue?
15:44:13 hnl_dk I did it the lazy way this time... through os4depot... I am too sleepy :-(
15:44:25 nicomen ah ok
15:45:11 hnl_dk but if You want to, you can always find it on amigaos.dk
15:45:26 Belxjander hrmmm
15:45:43 Belxjander seems I am almost 80% done with OpenOffice.org 2.0.1 source from cvs
15:45:53 nicomen hnl_dk: nah, it's ok
15:47:33 hnl_dk he has just accepted it for os4depot.net... so I guess it should soon get to aminet
15:54:22 nicomen hehe
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16:21:40 freaks hi folks
16:22:17 nicomen hi
16:22:50 nicomen hm, still no abc-shell
16:23:17 freaks i have an error message with make, it complains it can't find a memory.h file
16:23:25 freaks transform.c:26:20: memory.h: No such file or directory
16:23:25 freaks transform.c: In function `build_spiral_order':
16:23:25 freaks transform.c:122: warning: implicit declaration of function `memset'
16:23:25 freaks make: *** [transform.o] Error 1
16:23:45 freaks i can see abc-shell on os4depot
16:23:59 freaks i was wondering where can i get this memory.h ?
16:24:31 nicomen #ifndef __amigaos4__
16:24:52 nicomen use string.h
16:25:33 freaks ok
16:25:42 freaks tnx i test
16:27:43 freaks i replaced #include <memory.h> with #include <string.h>
16:53:51 freaks nothing better
16:53:58 freaks now at exaclty the same point i get a diffrent error
16:54:01 freaks T:make.sh.6250.YNOUPU[17]: cd: èoøia/P/patterns - No such file or directory
16:54:02 freaks make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
16:54:20 freaks cd: èoøia/ ?? what's that?
16:55:32 hnl_dk freaks: sometimes happens... try to change Your stacksize
16:56:03 freaks stack
16:56:03 freaks Current stack size is 409,600 bytes
16:56:12 freaks this isn't enough ?
16:56:42 hnl_dk freaks: It is idividual... depends on the script
16:57:03 freaks k i try
16:57:17 freaks stack 10000000
16:57:19 freaks then
16:57:19 freaks sh
16:57:23 freaks is ok ?
16:57:35 hnl_dk ok
16:58:08 hnl_dk will try to see if it is possible to fix it for the next release (maybe for the comming SDK)
16:58:21 freaks would be sweet
16:58:39 freaks thanks for the help btw
16:59:05 hnl_dk Your welcome... always happy to be able to help
16:59:24 freaks i have 3% memory free ;)
16:59:37 freaks will need a reboot
16:59:50 nicomen hnl_dk: sure you ticked the upload to aminet thingy?
16:59:54 freaks i'll check it all again after a reboot with big stack
17:00:10 nicomen hnl_dk: so that is a stack issue?
17:00:13 hnl_dk nicomen: yes
17:01:03 hnl_dk nicomen: I guess it might be something about piping, but I have heard that it sometimes helps to change the stack size
17:01:17 hnl_dk and it sometimes help me too ;-)
17:01:21 nicomen hm
17:01:30 hnl_dk but it could be random
17:02:11 hnl_dk I am planing to take a look at the translation code in clib2, to see if it could be something in there that is coursing the problem
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17:03:26 nicomen well, I made a minimal script that triggers it
17:03:31 hnl_dk nicomen: the screen says that upload to aminet was chosen...
17:03:36 hnl_dk ok
17:03:40 nicomen check mailing list archive
17:04:16 hnl_dk will do... later... am at the moment checking a game for ToAks ;-) And need to eat soon too
17:27:53 hnl_dk nicomen: ok, have found... will test after I have eaten
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17:49:11 SixK lo
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17:56:09 number6 Hi jahc
17:58:03 jahc morning
18:00:45 zerohero hey
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18:11:01 hnl_dk nicomen: I am going to see if I can find the problem this evening
18:13:11 nicomen hnl_dk: great ;)
18:14:18 hnl_dk nicomen: Hope that I am able to fix this soon... the best would be today ;-)
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18:19:56 afxgroup hello
18:20:08 SixK yop afxgroup
18:20:23 afxgroup hei. good evening
18:22:28 hnl_dk Hello Andrea
18:22:34 Orgin afx
18:25:29 afxgroup Hi Orgin. Tried to contact Dave, but the email si wrong..
18:25:43 afxgroup SixK: testing new modifies..
18:25:44 Orgin afx: ok :/
18:27:04 SixK afxgroup: may not work for AOS 4 :)
18:27:14 afxgroup just modified.. ;)
18:27:19 SixK ok great :)
18:28:10 afxgroup look.. should work for MOS too
18:28:12 afxgroup i've moved all os4 code into else
18:29:22 SixK ok it should work for both
18:29:35 afxgroup committing..
18:30:54 afxgroup committed
18:32:40 SixK oups may not work in fact :)
18:33:10 afxgroup why?
18:33:28 SixK wait, I look how you implemented this
18:35:09 Orgin afx: I renamed davep's sqlite to sqlite2-dp
18:35:50 Orgin -2 + 3
18:35:58 afxgroup dp stand for?
18:36:06 Orgin davep
18:36:25 afxgroup ah.. :)
18:36:36 Orgin You should have been able to figure that out :P
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18:40:19 hnl_dk I will be back later... am staying online though
18:46:25 SixK afxgroup: still here ?
18:52:09 afxgroup yes
18:57:35 afxgroup there is a new emule version...
19:02:08 zerohero yay
19:02:16 zerohero managed to compile and fix zip :)
19:04:06 afxgroup good dear.. :)
19:04:29 zerohero the exe is 60k smaller as well ;)
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19:14:22 zerohero Orgin: i just uploaded new compiles of zip, with fixed protectionbits now
19:15:04 afxgroup change my mail with your.. eheh.. :)
19:15:49 zerohero yes, i did that too, hope you don't mind :)
19:16:37 zerohero you're still mentioned as the original porter, i just fixed a few things
19:17:05 zerohero and you did sound a bit relieved when i wanted to fix the protectionbit stuff :)
19:19:32 afxgroup don't worry. :)
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19:48:44 freaks hnl_dk you're there?
19:49:40 zerohero idle for an hour, don't think he is
19:50:14 freaks i think i discovered a problem in the sdk
19:50:17 freaks here:
19:50:55 freaks  ./mkpat -b pat -i $(srcdir)/patterns.db -i$(srcdir)/patterns2.db \
19:50:55 freaks this one crash
19:51:11 freaks it says can't find ./patterns.db
19:51:20 freaks despite it is in the current dir
19:51:38 nicomen what does $(srcdir) expand to?
19:51:47 freaks if i edit the makefile to look like this:
19:51:59 freaks  ./mkpat -b pat -i patterns.db -i patterns2.db \
19:51:59 freaks 
19:52:07   -!- * afxgroup think that nicomen is the big brother..
19:52:07 freaks it works!
19:52:14 nicomen freaks: of course
19:52:16 zerohero afxgroup: :D
19:52:23 freaks nicomen current dir
19:52:31 nicomen if $(srcdir) isn't expanded to "." then it won't find it
19:52:38 freaks ./
19:52:40 nicomen shouldnt crash though, either
19:52:49 nicomen .//patterns.db ?
19:52:51 zerohero .// then, probably not good
19:53:00 nicomen that might be considered a bug
19:53:10 zerohero might? :)
19:53:12 nicomen afxgroup: why?
19:53:24 freaks it doesn't "crash but compilation result as a faillure, because it can't find ./blah but just "blah" is ok
19:53:30 nicomen zerohero: don't get me started on translating paths inside programs
19:53:44 nicomen freaks: ok
19:53:44 zerohero not a bug then
19:53:53 zerohero bad script, or bad editing of script :)
19:53:58 nicomen clearly a bug I'd say, if it's "./foo"
19:54:03 afxgroup nicomen: because you read all and never speak.. ;)
19:54:18 nicomen afxgroup: I only speak when I feel I have something to contribute
19:54:24 zerohero srcdir should be . not ./
19:54:46 zerohero nicomen: you haven't released unrar 3.5.4 yet :)
19:54:54 nicomen afxgroup: besides, I'm not sitting here watching you the whole day ;)
19:55:01 nicomen zerohero: nah, been away in a funeral
19:55:14 freaks i'm not very skilled but i think the sdk still don't understand unix pathes
19:55:17 zerohero nicomen: oh...
19:55:22 afxgroup nicomen: i know.. ;)
19:55:36 nicomen zerohero: don't know where mkpat comes from
19:55:39 nicomen err
19:55:43 nicomen freaks: don't know where mkpat comes from
19:57:50 freaks so i solved half the problem by removing all the $(srcdir) in this particular makefile, it worked, it compiled all it had to do in this dir, then it leaved the directory patterns and entered into "interfaces" dir , then i had another path related error,
19:58:36 freaks me either
19:58:50 freaks all i can say is it worked
19:59:02 freaks first time before editing the whole makefile, i did it manualy
19:59:09 freaks just one line
19:59:39 freaks then i edited 20 lines or so in the make file, so compilation was able to progress a bit more
19:59:52 freaks nicomen it's still gnugo ;)
20:00:05 freaks sdk is working far better now
20:00:19 freaks still some unix path related oddities i guess ?
20:08:56 nicomen ok
20:09:51 wegster holy sh*t, there's stuff in the scroll buffer in here, AND no one's kicked kindergip or number6 out yet ;-)
20:10:12   -!- * hnl_dk trying to find bug
20:10:56 wegster hnl_dk, abc-shell or other?
20:12:15 freaks nicomen mkpat is included in gnugo/patterns/ i see
20:12:35 hnl_dk wegster: I am trying to see if I can find a bug... will read the buffer later
20:12:54 freaks hnl_dk did you saw what i said ?
20:13:30 freaks i think i found a problem with sdk, as you said earlier i increased stack
20:13:30 hnl_dk freaks: will have a look
20:13:38 nicomen freaks: is it a shell script or is it being compiled?
20:13:46 freaks 3 000 000 was the max it seems
20:13:48 nicomen in the latter case I think you need to compile with -lunix
20:13:55 freaks nicomen it's ./configure make
20:14:45 freaks h=what i'm speaking about is in make
20:14:45 freaks it almost compile everything now
20:14:45 freaks it compile 10min a bit less
20:15:02 freaks hnl_dk: great thanks
20:15:55 hnl_dk I should better copy the buffer now, to be sure that Windows does not crash ;-)
20:17:02 nicomen freaks: again, if mkpat is compiled in the process, better add LIBS=-lunix
20:17:04 freaks i can reproduce the problem
20:17:13 freaks i tryed maybe 10times
20:17:36 freaks nicomen: like this: ./configure LIBS=-lunix ?
20:17:42 freaks is it exact?
20:17:52 freaks or maybe
20:18:02 hnl_dk LIBS=-lunix ./configure
20:18:06 freaks ./configure --LIBS=-lunix ?
20:18:18 freaks i see i will try thanks
20:18:24 nicomen ./configure LIBS=-lunix should work
20:18:30 nicomen LIBS=-lunix ./configure might also work
20:18:44 nicomen remember to make clean first
20:18:49 freaks ok thanks
20:18:49 hnl_dk I always set the environmental variable before executing the script
20:18:51 nicomen and remove configure.cache
20:18:56 Belxjander LDFLAGS=-Llib: -lunix
20:18:58 Belxjander maybe?
20:19:00 nicomen hnl_dk: no, only for older configure scripts
20:19:20 nicomen Belxjander: in that case it needs " around it
20:19:27 freaks argh now you all confuse me, what should i do , both ?
20:19:42 hnl_dk nicomen: but I always do, and it always works
20:19:50 nicomen hnl_dk: ok
20:20:23 nicomen $ ./configure --help
20:20:23 nicomen `configure' configures sed 4.1.4 to adapt to many kinds of systems.
20:20:23 nicomen Usage: ./configure [OPTION]... [VAR=VALUE]...
20:20:40 nicomen it's been like this for some years now ;)
20:20:59 hnl_dk Yes, but LIBS is not part of VAR
20:21:15 nicomen oh yes it is ;)
20:21:16 hnl_dk if You look at --help
20:21:25 hnl_dk not normaly
20:21:30 nicomen To assign environment variables (e.g., CC, CFLAGS...), specify them as
20:21:30 nicomen VAR=VALUE. See below for descriptions of some of the useful variables.
20:21:44 hnl_dk at least not in all the ones I have been porting lately ;-)
20:21:56 nicomen Some influential environment variables:
20:21:56 nicomen  CC C compiler command
20:21:56 nicomen  CFLAGS C compiler flags
20:21:56 nicomen  LDFLAGS linker flags, e.g. -L<lib dir> if you have libraries in a
20:21:56 nicomen  nonstandard directory <lib dir>
20:21:59 nicomen  CPPFLAGS C/C++ preprocessor flags, e.g. -I<include dir> if you have
20:22:01 nicomen  headers in a nonstandard directory <include dir>
20:22:04 nicomen  CPP C preprocessor
20:22:07 nicomen sure LIBS is not listed, but it is also an env var
20:22:29 nicomen I know I know, but it's less error prone, and is supported by autooconf for a while now
20:22:44 nicomen for instance FOO=bar ./configure in AmigaShell might not work
20:22:46 hnl_dk I know, but still not listed ;-) and as I wrote... my way always works ;-)
20:23:02 nicomen ok
20:23:48 hnl_dk I have 10 hours of buffer here 8-)
20:24:10 nicomen buffer?
20:24:12 nicomen irclog?
20:24:27 hnl_dk yes
20:24:34 nicomen http://irc.utilitybase.com/amigadev/
20:24:46 nicomen today: http://irc.utilitybase.com/amigadev/2006-01-30.txt
20:24:58 hnl_dk great... didn't know
20:25:11   -!- * afxgroup is sure: nicomen is the Big Brother..
20:25:16 afxgroup :D
20:25:18 nicomen I made it specially for people using windows
20:25:19 nicomen ;D
20:25:21 nicomen and asp
20:26:30 afxgroup ASP RULEZ
20:27:34 freaks isn't asp some crap from m$ ?
20:27:52 afxgroup ASP is the father of all server side languages.. :)
20:29:03 nicomen afxgroup: http://my.opera.com/nicomen/ <-- forward to google when not finding address ;)
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20:30:16 afxgroup nicolas.. would you tell me why you don't put your original photo?? the old one present on aw?? :)
20:31:10 nicomen afxgroup: http://www.brianhv.org/article/82
20:31:17 nicomen afxgroup: you don't like the svg version?
20:32:01 afxgroup no
20:32:24 nicomen http://my.opera.com/nicomen/picture.pl == http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/svg/nicomen_nocss.svg
20:32:46   -!- * hnl_dk has been looking at the log
20:33:27 afxgroup nicomen: and who is brian?? none of important.. :PP
20:33:41 nicomen http://my.opera.com/nicomen/avatar.pl
20:34:00 nicomen brian, hmm, probably the one working in marketing at opera
20:34:33 hnl_dk freaks: as Nicolas told... the configurescript You are using is compiling a little tool that needs to be linked against libunix, to find the file it is looking for...
20:35:31 freaks so LIBS=-lunix ./configure should do the trick , that's it /
20:35:31 afxgroup someone want the qemu sources already modified but that need to be debugged??
20:35:32 freaks ?
20:35:53 hnl_dk freaks: yes
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20:36:17 nicomen afxgroup: I can trade you with the bochs sources ;D
20:36:48 afxgroup mm.. mine open the SDL window and then get a fantastic ISI error.....
20:37:29 nicomen bochs?
20:37:42 nicomen or qemu?
20:37:46 nicomen isi sounds like stack thing
20:37:49 hnl_dk zerohero: srcdir should not have a "/" in the end, but it should make no difference though, as there is a function in abc-shell that removed extra / ... ie. '//' --> '/' ... '///' --> '/'
20:37:56 afxgroup qemu
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20:41:27 zerohero hnl_dk: ok
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21:20:48 zerohero Lock((char *)path, MODE_OLDFILE)
21:20:54 zerohero from the zip port
21:21:04 zerohero i think it's from the original port
21:21:12 zerohero it's bad anyway :)
21:23:27 hnl_dk problem?
21:24:38 zerohero mode_oldfile isn't valid
21:25:59 zerohero access_read or access_write is ok
21:26:39 hnl_dk having a look at clib2 (or are You using newlib?)
21:27:01 zerohero it's amigados :)
21:27:57 hnl_dk ;-)
21:28:01 hnl_dk oops ;-)
21:28:29   -!- * hnl_dk has been doing too much porting
21:28:34 zerohero but it's clib2... hmm, thought i changed it to newlib
21:28:39 zerohero hnl_dk: ;)
21:34:12 hnl_dk looking at /dos/dos.h ... SHARED_LOCK, ACCESS_READ, EXCLUSIVE_LOCK & ACCESS_WRITE should work
21:35:34 zerohero mode_oldfile is for dos.library/open()
21:35:38 zerohero i think
21:37:28 hnl_dk yes