Utilitybase chatlog - 2006-01-25

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05:34:11 hnl_dk Hi'
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09:33:58 racs hi there
09:39:35 jahc hi racs
09:40:59 zerohero morning
09:41:08 zerohero Orgin: you around?
09:41:19 zerohero OrginWork: or you?
09:41:56 jahc morning zero
09:43:15   -!- * racs is wondering on Cell
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12:47:27 zerohero #6
12:47:40 number6 Hi
12:48:27 number6 zerohero: There were some comments on OS4depot regarding the port of zip. Did you read them?
12:48:54 zerohero number6: yes, answered the first one
12:50:32 number6 And the ones on zhxpk?
12:50:57 zerohero i read them, not sure if they needed an answer tho :)
12:51:23 zerohero i am going to add unpack to it
12:51:24 number6 Agreed.
12:51:58 number6 Similar cycle gadget from xpkatana from pack/unpack?
12:52:14 zerohero checking...
12:52:53 zerohero maybe that's better
12:53:02 zerohero was thinking about adding a unpack button
12:53:44 number6 Are the other two options "test" "repack" shown in xpkatana of any use these days?
12:54:30 zerohero testing the integrity of packed stuff could be useful, repacking with different packer might be as well
12:54:48 zerohero but unpack is alot more important, imo :)
12:56:13 number6 Agreed. I just wanted to ask before you got "locked" in to design.
12:56:34 zerohero not sure how "test" is implemented tho
12:57:02 zerohero ah
12:57:23 zerohero it doesn't test the integrity of the file, but rather tests packers on the given file
12:57:30 zerohero not very useful, imo
12:57:38 number6 btw-your file handling (source/destination) seems more "common sense" than "process" and "process as" for destination in xpkatana.
12:58:11 zerohero yes, i thought that was confusing when i first used xpkatana
12:59:27 number6 Also...do you think the settings files then (xpkatana) are moot because speed is no longer an issue?
13:00:06 zerohero settings files?
13:01:03 number6 xpkatana has a "button" for "set" which allows you to set the packing levels.
13:01:23 number6 Also serves as a sort of "info" file about the compressors.
13:01:31 zerohero ah, yes, same as my integer gadget, it's 100 as default in my gui
13:02:21 zerohero memusage and such shouldn't be an issue anymore
13:02:44 zerohero otoh, diskspace shouldn't either, so packing might be redundant to begin with :)
13:03:13 number6 I have to leave for a while. But I had a question. We mentioned only port of the best packers. What about the cryptors? LIke blowfish? Any point?
13:03:47 zerohero might be, byt i'm not sure the sources are available
13:04:46 number6 Ah! OK. Just something to keep in mind. I agree about the others. Only the best packers needed now that speed is not an issue.
13:05:25 number6 Have a good day and I will be back early evening your time.
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13:14:56 jahc zerohero: I'm trying out your program now
13:14:58 jahc well done!
13:15:16 jahc I dont really need it at the moment.. but its great you've released something
13:15:23 jahc isnt it cool having your name in an about window?? :)
13:15:37 zerohero hehe
13:15:49 zerohero jahc: fact is noone is likely to need it ;)
13:16:10 jahc you never know
13:16:12 zerohero jahc: diskspace shouldn't be a problem anymore :)
13:16:20 jahc people often need little utilities to do stuff
13:16:24 jahc have you heard of "allkeys" ?
13:16:36 zerohero yes, don't need it myself
13:16:46 zerohero don't have a fancy keyboard :)
13:17:26 jahc well.. my point is.. I've been an amiga user for years (since 1993).. I needed a utility to do a particular job.. and I found this little obscure utility..
13:17:59 jahc people will find your tool useful
13:18:02 zerohero i'll tell deniil of onyxsoft you think his releases are obscure ;)
13:18:32 jahc well maybe not obscure but i hadnt heard of it until wegster mentioned it hehe
13:18:59 jahc wegster wrote a simple hex to decimal convertor for me to use in conjunction with that program..
13:19:18 jahc so I could give VICE a decimal number for configuring keys..
13:19:36 jahc i'm wondering if anyone else would find that useful
13:20:12 zerohero vice-prefs would be more useful, i think ;)
13:21:09 jahc ok. time to test downloaded games.
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13:57:07 nicomen flay net today
13:57:10 nicomen flaky
13:59:54 zerohero yup
14:00:06 jahc flaky? what are you talking about?
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14:00:28 jahc just joking
14:00:52 jahc doh.. i tried to /quit ping timeout .. nm
14:00:54 zerohero yeah, client exiting isn't so much the networs fault ;)
14:01:05 zerohero +k
14:02:03 zerohero i would like to know if those led images in x-net rss are available to the public, or if he used real images perhaps
14:03:37 jahc they're not that great.
14:03:42 jahc they serve the purpose well, but ...
14:04:35 zerohero they can be useful
14:09:09 jahc they're useful
14:09:20 jahc but they're just graphics..
14:09:42 zerohero sure, i just don't want to paint any myself
14:09:49 jahc ok.
14:09:59 zerohero and if they were led.image they'd probably have some inbuilt colors
14:10:27 zerohero not having to make a heap of different images just for a different color
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14:18:58 MrBot [hnl_dk] hnl_dk
14:19:06 nicomen hnl_dk: hi there )
14:19:08 hnl_dk Hello
14:19:16 nicomen was just giving your changes a spin
14:19:20 nicomen compiling wise
14:19:30 hnl_dk ok
14:19:49 nicomen would you mind if I prefix all the commands with ppc-amigaos- ?
14:19:59 nicomen works both on os4 and cross compilation
14:20:45 hnl_dk should be ok
14:21:19   -!- * jahc prefixes nicomens name with /kick ! ..... nah.. I dont have the power. :(
14:21:49 zerohero hey hnl_dk
14:21:54 hnl_dk Hello :-)
14:22:14 nicomen hnl_dk: done ;)
14:22:33 hnl_dk zerohero: Yould You like to test the comming verion of abc-shell
14:22:51 zerohero hnl_dk: not sure what i would do with it ;)
14:23:06 nicomen hnl_dk: I'll tell toaks about it btw
14:23:25 hnl_dk ok
14:23:37 zerohero hnl_dk: i use cross-compilers at all times
14:23:55 hnl_dk zerohero: Why not sty something new ;-)
14:24:09 zerohero hnl_dk: gcc crashes on my machine :)
14:24:17 zerohero been told it might be the memory stick
14:24:27 zerohero everything else is stable, most of the time
14:24:41 hnl_dk ok
14:25:05 hnl_dk or maybe You need to rise the stack size...
14:25:18 zerohero i've tried up to 10mb, so no :)
14:25:29 hnl_dk ok
14:26:07 zerohero but those that use it say abc-shell is working great
14:26:15 zerohero you've been doing a good job there
14:29:22 hnl_dk thanks... but I have mostly been doing some bugfixing, and updating... I am not the only one working on it... allthough I have been the most active lately...
14:30:43 zerohero andy did the initial port, iirc
14:30:52 zerohero and nico helping out, are there more?
14:31:14 zerohero ssolie did some stuff, right?
14:31:52 hnl_dk no... Thomas Frieden started the port... Yakov and myself took over the port... and some others have been comming later on ;-)
14:32:22 zerohero oh?
14:32:25 hnl_dk You can see all who are involved here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/abc-shell
14:32:59 zerohero i've only been compiling it now and then, not really cared about who did what :)
14:33:05 bones nicomen, have you had a chance to test the sprite2 demo I posted?
14:33:15 hnl_dk ;-)
14:33:46 zerohero is jack still around? his cpu blew up, didn't it?
14:34:05 racs gone
14:34:05 racs bye
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14:34:37 nicomen bones: nope sorry, I don't have windows
14:35:00 jahc who's jack?
14:35:13 nicomen jack in the box
14:35:20 zerohero he built the house
14:35:42 nicomen daniels
14:36:50 jahc three smart alec replies in 30 seconds. well done guys. hehe
14:36:55 zerohero :)
14:36:59 bones I got a new IBM ThinkPad explicitly to cure the problem with jitter, but its just the same as the old ThinkPad
14:37:15 bones I don't remember any problem with intent 1.3
14:37:17 hnl_dk zerohero: I havn't heard from him in a while :-(
14:37:39 zerohero jahc: he's from israel tho, don't know much about him. he continued a vim port after rogue
14:37:49 zerohero hnl_dk: too bad
14:38:04 bones the theory atm is that the problem only occurs on ATI graphic chipsets
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16:14:09 itix hi
16:14:17 zerohero afternoon itix
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16:49:27 racs back
17:30:23 racs what do you think which is the easiest way to draw an 24bit RGB buffer into a window?
17:33:52 jahc SDL
17:33:55 jahc hehe nah I dont know
17:35:11 racs plain OS
17:35:42 itix WritePixelArray()
17:40:07 racs itix: that must be 8bit/pixels
17:42:29 racs p96 saves my sorry ass again
18:17:47 itix no, it takes RGB and ARGB data too
18:17:53 itix but p96 has similar functions
18:27:11 racs itix: how could it take RGB values?
18:27:41 nicomen pre-allocate pens maybe?
18:28:40 racs nicomen: you mean allocate a pen for each RGB value?
18:29:10 nicomen I guess
18:29:18 nicomen but that's just stupid and so 80ies ;D
18:29:23 racs nicomen: not particularly useful ;)
18:30:58 nicomen how does a renderinfo look?
18:32:07 Orgin RTFM ;)
18:32:34 nicomen :)
18:32:45 itix racs: oh, you mean drawing an 24bit RGB buffer to 8bit window?
18:34:37 racs itix: what else? :)
18:34:51 itix 8bit is deprecated :) at least on morphos ;)
18:35:08 racs itix: that is morphos problem
18:35:52 itix nah
18:38:27 itix i think users are getting nasty surprise when they are trying to run p96/cgx oriented software on aga
18:38:46 racs itix: so? :)
18:39:30 itix well, your code i guess ;)
18:39:50 racs itix: won't be working witout P96
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18:56:41 afxgroup hi
18:56:47 zerohero evening afxgroup
18:56:54 zerohero how are you?
18:57:02 afxgroup ok. your time zone is correct
18:57:05 afxgroup fine thanks
18:57:21 zerohero yes, timezone is the same as yours :)
18:57:51 zerohero just 2000 km north, or is that 300 km perhaps
18:57:57 zerohero 3000
18:59:31 itix hi andrea
18:59:57 afxgroup hi. have you received my mail?
19:00:12 itix lemme check my mail
19:01:37 itix ah, bourriquet?
19:02:08 afxgroup yep
19:02:30 itix git it
19:02:34 itix got
19:02:56 itix submitted my patches to cvs so mos version builds but doesnt work ;-(
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19:03:21 racs Chain|Q
19:03:27 Chain|Q racsni
19:03:42 jahc afxgroup: isnt is broken badly though?
19:07:46 afxgroup what?
19:09:55 jahc isnt it broken badly though? the bourriquet program?
19:10:29 nicomen no his penis
19:10:37 nicomen bye
19:11:10 afxgroup jach: no, but i cannot download (and request..) anything
19:20:45 Orgin afxgroup: Contacted davep?
19:24:15 afxgroup not yet.. i'm busy with a program that must finish quickly....
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19:41:27 racs "When a young programmer wants to do something really cool, his or her first thought is generally not 'dude, two words... File system'"
19:41:30 racs LOL
19:42:29 racs now gonw
19:42:30 racs e
19:42:31 racs bye
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21:15:05 itix re
22:18:58 zerohero slow tonight?
22:19:37 number6 On some channels.
22:21:14 zerohero any special channels you want to share with us? :)
22:22:42 number6 zerohero: The motivational channel?
22:22:49 zerohero hehe
22:23:01 zerohero i need no motivation atm, i'm fine ;)
22:23:07 zerohero i need entertainment
22:23:10 number6 hehe
22:23:38 number6 What? 16 hours days and you want time off for real life? What's the matter with you?
22:26:33 zerohero not sure, do you think it's curable?
22:27:42 number6 Sure....you can change this by merely adding one more hour to your daily schedule.
22:27:59 zerohero that's easy enough ;)
22:28:31 afxgroup back
22:28:35 zerohero number6: btw, i uploaded zhxpk 1.1 to os4depot, added unpack button, it was the easy fix :)
22:28:39 zerohero afxgroup: wb :)
22:29:19 number6 zerohero: Already saw it and downloaded. Will have a look later, if......
22:29:33 number6 zerohero: You know what "if" means.
22:29:37 zerohero number6: hehe
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22:34:15 hnl_dk good night :-)
22:35:00 zerohero night :)
22:35:19 hnl_dk :-)
22:35:29 number6 nite
22:35:43 afxgroup nite!
22:36:06 hnl_dk afxgroup: You have got mail
22:36:12 afxgroup uhm.. wait
22:37:13 hnl_dk afxgroup: And this time You got rid of .attbin: ... nicolas and andy made it work :-)
22:37:46 afxgroup your last mail is dated yesterday night
22:38:04 hnl_dk I just send one now...
22:38:31 afxgroup ah, wait again..
22:38:36 hnl_dk and Your mail address is on the list
22:38:37 hnl_dk ok
22:38:47 afxgroup just arrived
22:38:52 hnl_dk great
22:39:03 afxgroup have u downloaded the e-uae package?
22:39:28 hnl_dk please test, no, not yet... didn't have the time... will do it tomorrow...
22:40:40 itix n8 all
22:40:42 hnl_dk But I have heared that there is a problem with coreutils on os4depot... as it has been linked againt a version of clib2 that had a memory allocation problem... migth be a good idea to recompile it...
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22:41:56 hnl_dk Need to go to bed now...
22:42:01 hnl_dk See you...
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22:46:09 zerohero bah
22:46:20 zerohero that's what you get for not thinking straight
22:46:30 zerohero depthmenu archive on os4depot doesn't work :(
22:46:54 zerohero linked with wrong autoinitcode
22:55:24 afxgroup Orgin here?
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23:55:16 afxgroup nite all
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23:58:27 MrBot [hnl_dk] hnl_dk
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