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| 03:16:07 | zerohero | ey, wegster |
| 03:18:28 | wegsterWork | hey |
| 03:24:11 | wegster | whatcha up to? |
| 03:24:30 | zerohero | not much, can't sleep |
| 03:24:39 | wegster | zerohero, what time is it there? |
| 03:25:09 | zerohero | 04:24 :) |
| 03:25:15 | wegsterWork | heheheh oops? |
| 03:25:20 | wegsterWork | so start coding something ;-) |
| 03:25:21 | zerohero | yeah, big oops :) |
| 03:25:29 | wegsterWork | at least no work tomorrow, right? |
| 03:25:35 | zerohero | no, no work |
| 03:26:01 | wegsterWork | start coding ;-) |
| 03:26:04 | zerohero | hehe |
| 03:26:21 | zerohero | i have tons of projects, not sure which one to actually finish ;) |
| 03:26:23 | wegsterWork | or google me a sane place to find valid eclipse info so I can finish my damned os4 cross-compile under eclipse doc 'cleanly' |
| 03:26:30 | wegsterWork | ALL of them of course, silly@ |
| 03:26:34 | wegsterWork | s/@/! |
| 03:26:34 | zerohero | hehe |
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| 03:27:49 | zerohero | i guess you're working as usuall? |
| 03:28:09 | wegsterWork | naah actually just needed another login while vpmed in to walk through some rh crap with alchemy |
| 03:28:28 | zerohero | red hat? |
| 03:28:45 | wegsterWork | yeah |
| 03:29:02 | zerohero | fedora core 4, or what is it called now? |
| 03:29:08 | wegsterWork | don't have a rh box at home, all bsd/gentoo/solaris b/c rh blows, so needed to access one to verify some filenames etc |
| 03:29:21 | wegsterWork | not sure what he's on, I don't touch fc at work, rhes and as only. |
| 03:29:52 | zerohero | i only know one fedora users, he's very happy with it |
| 03:30:01 | zerohero | tho it's the only linux he's tried :) |
| 03:30:08 | wegsterWork | fedora is ok for home use, not for stability or a production server. |
| 03:30:18 | zerohero | i otoh have only seriously tested debian |
| 03:30:21 | wegsterWork | support is WAY too short, and too much 'bleeding edge' in it for a real box. |
| 03:30:43 | zerohero | bleeding edge is good ;) |
| 03:30:56 | zerohero | that's why i stick to debian :D |
| 03:31:22 | wegsterWork | rofl, deb isn't bleeding edge at all |
| 03:31:35 | wegsterWork | but deb is pretty stable/solid, just apt-get kinda annoys me, not enough time spent with it |
| 03:31:41 | zerohero | it's not? *shocking* |
| 03:32:10 | zerohero | apt-get, aptitude, synaptic all good imo |
| 03:32:25 | zerohero | tho i found aptitude a bit slow |
| 03:32:50 | wegsterWork | lol re BE |
| 03:36:19 | zerohero | that didn't make much sense? |
| 03:36:26 | zerohero | lol i get, but re be? |
| 03:55:08 | wegsterWork | re bleeding edge |
| 03:56:08 | zerohero | ah :) |
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| 12:44:23 | zerohero | uhm |
| 12:44:41 | nicomen | hi |
| 12:44:56 | zerohero | i can't get easyrequest() to show % in es_textformat |
| 12:45:02 | zerohero | and hello :) |
| 12:45:24 | zerohero | it's supposed to be rawdofmt() but %% doesn't work |
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| 12:47:29 | nicomen | *% or '% maybe? |
| 12:48:12 | nicomen | hm |
| 12:49:16 | zerohero | printf("%s\n", buffer); shows that they're there |
| 12:49:31 | zerohero | they just don't work in es_textformat |
| 12:49:36 | zerohero | that's just bad |
| 12:49:54 | nicomen | ok |
| 12:51:32 | zerohero | "Formatting '%' functions are supported exactly as in RawDoFmt()" from the easyrequest autodoc, which apparently isn't true |
| 12:53:35 | nicomen | 3.x or 4.x? |
| 12:55:45 | zerohero | 4.x |
| 13:06:39 | zerohero | uhm |
| 13:06:57 | zerohero | rawdofmt() doesn't support %% even? |
| 13:07:22 | zerohero | i tried the messagebox() code from testapp.c in sdk:examples/reaction |
| 13:07:29 | zerohero | still no % sign in there |
| 13:08:22 | zerohero | sprintf(buffer, "text2: %s\ntext2: %ld B\ntext3: %ld%%\ntext4: %ld B/s", ...); |
| 13:08:48 | zerohero | if i printf("%s\n", buffer); it works |
| 13:34:37 | zerohero | anyone awake? |
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| 14:07:58 | zerohero | hey :) |
| 14:08:03 | number6 | Hi |
| 14:08:09 | number6 | What is the program? |
| 14:08:25 | zerohero | http://zerohero.homeip.net/~zerohero/shxpk.lha |
| 14:08:29 | zerohero | sory |
| 14:08:31 | zerohero | +r |
| 14:08:33 | zerohero | http://zerohero.homeip.net/~zerohero/zhxpk.lha |
| 14:08:52 | zerohero | it's just a small app to pack stuff with xpk |
| 14:09:15 | number6 | Let me take a look........... |
| 14:09:24 | zerohero | it saves the resulting file in the same dir as the original, with .xpk ending |
| 14:11:27 | number6 | This looks strangely like the original interface for xpk. |
| 14:11:58 | zerohero | original interface? |
| 14:12:08 | zerohero | you mean the prefs program? |
| 14:12:38 | zerohero | never were a gui packer supplied with xpk |
| 14:12:51 | zerohero | but i take it it hasn't crashed yet |
| 14:12:53 | number6 | Huh? |
| 14:13:07 | number6 | Wait a few minutes.......... |
| 14:14:10 | number6 | zerohero: I meant to say (I have this on my Micro) that it looks like XPKatana interface. |
| 14:14:42 | zerohero | ah, yes, to some degree it does, it was the inspiration ;) |
| 14:18:49 | number6 | zerohero: OK. I had an .idx (index file uncompressed from Collector). I had also saved this file with Collector using SHRI. For my test...I loaded the uncompress .idx into your GUI and saved again as SHRI. Your resulting file was "smaller" than the one I saved through Collector. Yet my prefs were at 100% in both. Any idea why? |
| 14:18:50 | zerohero | thanks for testing, now i can continue with some bits and pieces, it doesn't crash and burn on other setups :) |
| 14:19:42 | zerohero | uhm? what do you mean by "smaller" |
| 14:21:19 | zerohero | i don't know what collector is, but if that saves uncompressed files, and then you pack them with xpk, using my gui, it should get smaller |
| 14:21:20 | number6 | Saved through Collector in SHRI the file reads 191,505, the same file saved in SHRI with "your" interface reads 182,684. Smaller packed size. |
| 14:21:29 | zerohero | oh? |
| 14:21:41 | number6 | Collector interfaces with xpk...to be clear. |
| 14:22:10 | zerohero | maybe it was able to pack it further? seems odd, but i see no other solution...? |
| 14:22:20 | zerohero | <-- dinner now, bbl |
| 14:22:25 | number6 | cya |
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| 14:30:58 | racs | hi |
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| 14:36:02 | number6 | zerohere: Tried another test with a bog standard iff image using SHRI in both XPKatana and your program. Resulting byte count from XPKatana:752,572. From your interface:752,464. Difference in header info perhaps? |
| 14:40:54 | zerohero | number6: wierd |
| 14:41:32 | zerohero | not sure what xpk saves tho, might have to check that out |
| 14:41:57 | zerohero | number6: and why shri, btw? bzp2 os4 is by far the best/fastest packer? |
| 14:44:08 | number6 | zerohero: I'll try bzip on the same file and report back. I used SHRI, because prior to native bzip, it gave the best compression for bog standard .iff filetype. |
| 14:46:47 | number6 | Correction: Testing with PPC native "gzip.xpk". |
| 14:51:54 | number6 | zerohero: Using PPC native gzip.xpk my test file was identical in size using either interface. Size:741,080 |
| 14:53:17 | zerohero | number6: that's good at least |
| 15:01:06 | number6 | zerohero: I retested the same .iff file with SHRI and my results still showed the same as above. 68k Katana interface behaving differently in some way. That would be -your- department, not mine. |
| 15:03:24 | number6 | zerohero: Note gzip absolutely "flies". Are their plans (or already done) to port any other of the sub-libraries? |
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| 15:04:25 | nicomen | max |
| 15:04:26 | zerohero | number6: bzp2 and gzip are the only one that's os4 native, afaik |
| 15:04:40 | migthymax | hi all and nicomen |
| 15:04:50 | racs | does anybody know how can I find out what went wrong, id icon.lib/IconControl function does not return the amont of the processed tags exactly? |
| 15:05:02 | zerohero | number6: imo no more are needed, bzp2 is, as i said, by far the best packer, and it's fast enough on os4 |
| 15:05:18 | zerohero | nicomen, max, racs! |
| 15:05:40 | nicomen | 0her0 |
| 15:06:21 | racs | zerohero |
| 15:06:47 | racs | I guess the precision tag cannot be processed, but it is just a guess |
| 15:07:22 | zerohero | wouldn't know, only loaded app icons and done tooltype stuff |
| 15:08:32 | racs | no, it was not the precision tag |
| 15:08:55 | racs | it seems only for old iconformat I got no data back |
| 15:09:56 | racs | myabe it does not work for non-palette mapped icons |
| 15:10:36 | number6 | zerohero. Agreed. |
| 15:11:29 | zerohero | number6: if xpk_datatype and rgfx datatype were ported, maybe there are packers that show better results on sound and images, tho |
| 15:12:19 | number6 | zerohero: It is obvious that the wide array of choices in previous xpk had a lot to do with tradeoff in speed vs performance. That is not an issue now. So best compression is the way to go. Period. |
| 15:13:06 | zerohero | number6: now we only need some programs to actually use xpk then ;) |
| 15:13:54 | number6 | zerohero: Agreed. |
| 15:14:55 | number6 | zerohero: Do you want the AW link to where we had a little discussion on this? Or did you have it already? |
| 15:35:04 | zerohero | number6: no, don't have it... please post. will be away a while tho |
| 15:45:55 | number6 | zerohere: Didn't want to pollute this channel, so look in private tab please. |
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| 17:05:06 | racs | back |
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| 17:41:04 | nicomen | oooh |
| 17:41:10 | nicomen | Zaphod! ;D |
| 17:41:37 | zerohero | hum |
| 17:41:48 | nicomen | probably just a statbot of some sort |
| 17:41:54 | zerohero | i almost convinced myself upd4 would be released today |
| 17:42:05 | nicomen | !seen beeblebrox |
| 17:42:05 | GrimReaper | I don't know who beeblebrox is. |
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| 17:42:18 | nicomen | zerohero: too bad, eh ;) |
| 17:42:39 | zerohero | nicomen: yeah :/ |
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| 19:12:11 | racs | bye |
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| 21:20:38 | Coder | anyone awake? |
| 21:21:02 | zerohero | sure? |
| 21:21:09 | Coder | cool |
| 21:21:12 | Coder | question |
| 21:21:23 | zerohero | shoot |
| 21:21:46 | zerohero | just saw your question on ub.com, same? |
| 21:21:49 | Coder | iconfy and uniconfy of windows: I got the code for both and set the tag in the window but nothing is happening. Is there need of something else too? |
| 21:21:57 | Coder | nah different one. |
| 21:22:22 | zerohero | ah, you need to create and attach a msgport |
| 21:22:40 | Coder | got that |
| 21:22:51 | zerohero | struct MsgPort *msgport = IExec->CreateMsgPort(); |
| 21:22:52 | Coder | I thought I needed it and I set it up. |
| 21:23:05 | zerohero | WINDOW_AppPort, msgport, |
| 21:23:20 | zerohero | if you're using sharemsgport it won't work |
| 21:23:26 | zerohero | shared |
| 21:23:47 | Coder | AppPort = IExec->CreateMsgPort(); |
| 21:24:02 | Coder | AppPort = IExec->CreateMsgPort(); |
| 21:24:32 | Coder | ah let me see |
| 21:24:45 | Coder | I think this is one of those moments I was coding when I should be sleeping |
| 21:24:50 | zerohero | hehe |
| 21:27:18 | Coder | yeah I think I made a mistake. Let me check if it works now |
| 21:30:15 | Coder | works |
| 21:30:28 | Coder | I had it also in the wrong place and the define of it was wrong |
| 21:30:38 | Coder | good heavens I missed out on the time |
| 21:30:46 | Coder | Thanks for the help! |
| 21:30:50 | Coder | Gotta run! |
| 21:30:51 | Coder | bye |
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| 21:31:09 | zerohero | cya :) |
| 21:31:11 | zerohero | bah |
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| 22:00:19 | zerohero | jahc! |
| 22:01:08 | jahc | zerohero! |
| 22:05:00 | zerohero | jahc: working on anything interesting atm? |
| 22:05:08 | jahc | nope |
| 22:05:50 | jahc | you? |
| 22:05:58 | zerohero | just an xpk packer |
| 22:06:18 | zerohero | http://zerohero.homeip.net/~zerohero/zhxpk.lha if you want to test |
| 22:27:02 | zerohero | nicomen: you awake? |
| 22:43:46 | zerohero | !seen afxgroup |
| 22:43:46 | GrimReaper | I don't know who afxgroup is. |
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| 22:51:57 | Varthall | hi |
| 22:52:04 | zerohero | evening |
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| 23:43:58 | nicomen | zerohero: yes |
| 23:45:04 | antique | damn nico,you're slow. isthat what the ladies say to? lol. ;) |
| 23:45:08 | zerohero | nicomen: i'm checking out the unrar code. was wondering what it would take to make it amigaos protectionbits aware |
| 23:45:23 | zerohero | nicomen: i've found the code, responsible for creating files tho |
| 23:46:37 | nicomen | is this a question? |
| 23:47:00 | nicomen | I can't tell you what is needed off the top of my head, i would need to look at the code again |
| 23:47:41 | zerohero | it's no question, not anymore :) |
| 23:47:52 | nicomen | ok ;) |
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