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| 00:12:41 | zerohero | ssolie! |
| 00:12:45 | ssolie | yo |
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| 19:03:25 | kas1e | hi |
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| 22:18:20 | wegster | meh, where's ssolie when ya need him? |
| 22:18:42 | zerohero | it's friday night, maybe he has a life? |
| 22:19:04 | wegster | zerohero, no it's not, I'm still working. |
| 22:19:15 | wegster | zerohero, and of course he doesn't, he does entirely too many ports for that ;-) |
| 22:19:31 | zerohero | wegster: i'll take your word for it |
| 22:19:37 | zerohero | :) |
| 22:19:40 | wegster | heheh |
| 22:19:51 | | -!- * wegster waits for ssolie to come in and bitchslap him now.. ;-) |
| 22:20:25 | zerohero | nicomen: is on some secret betachannel with all the betawarez, he could probably summon him ;) |
| 22:20:31 | zerohero | bah |
| 22:20:34 | zerohero | -: |
| 22:20:59 | zerohero | and still no upd4 |
| 22:21:10 | zerohero | frustrating |
| 22:29:33 | wegster | grin |
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| 22:41:45 | zerohero | wegster: he's here now, spooky isn't it |
| 22:46:46 | jahc | zerohero: not really eh. none of us have lives |
| 22:47:09 | jahc | back soon geggedy geggedy geggedy |
| 22:49:06 | ssolie | life, don't talk to me about life [sigh] |
| 22:49:50 | zerohero | i've given up all thoughts about it |
| 22:50:03 | zerohero | my wife insists on my trying to have one anyway |
| 22:50:11 | zerohero | me |
| 22:52:49 | ssolie | pfft.. wives.. what do they know? [check to make sure mine is not watching] |
| 22:53:33 | zerohero | lol |
| 22:53:35 | wegster | rofl, see zerohero what'd I tell ya? ;-) |
| 22:53:42 | wegster | ssolie, part you missed: |
| 22:53:52 | wegster | wegster meh, where's ssolie when ya need him? |
| 22:53:52 | wegster | zerohero it's friday night, maybe he has a life? |
| 22:53:52 | wegster | wegster zerohero, no it's not, I'm still working. |
| 22:53:53 | wegster | wegster zerohero, and of course he doesn't, he does entirely too many ports for that ;-) |
| 22:53:53 | wegster | zerohero wegster: i'll take your word for it |
| 22:53:53 | wegster | zerohero :) |
| 22:53:55 | wegster | wegster heheh |
| 22:53:57 | | -!- * wegster waits for ssolie to come in and bitchslap him now.. ;-) |
| 22:54:06 | ssolie | lol |
| 22:54:10 | wegster | ;-) |
| 22:54:21 | ssolie | she isn't around at the moment but we do have plans this evening so there :-P |
| 22:54:29 | wegster | ssolie, wanted to pick your brains and see if you might have an idea on something I need to do (not aos) |
| 22:54:32 | wegster | ssolie, go you! ;-) |
| 22:54:41 | ssolie | mmmm.. brains |
| 22:54:45 | wegster | grin.. |
| 22:55:37 | wegster | ok, so....I have a 'test description' file which is bascially an xml representation of a security test, hundreds of them..need to write a prser to convert them into actual code. To further make things obnoxious, I need to output either shell, python OR VBScript. |
| 22:56:20 | wegster | I can write the parser in any language I choose (yay?), but can NOT change the definition files as I'm essentially stuck reverse engineering someone else's engine. |
| 22:56:31 | wegster | (which the desc xml files are input for). |
| 22:57:08 | wegster | got any especially cool lib or even language that you know of handles xml sanely enough but does well for building a parser? |
| 22:57:33 | ssolie | I've heard good things about python's xml parser.. (sorry, haven't used it personally) |
| 22:58:54 | wegster | nod, I've used their xmlrpc lib before, can do it in python but wondering if there may be something better suited for handling it. |
| 22:59:20 | wegster | and wrote a partial xml parser anyways in python but still, never know what else might be more suitable etc. |
| 22:59:31 | ssolie | well, underneath it is all pretty much expat anyway; just pick one that you like interface wise |
| 23:00:31 | wegster | nod, thinking the xml parsing isn't actually so bad, that's pretty standardly available nowadays, but building the parser itself? ptyhon as good as any or is there any lib/module or even lang may be better suited? (ok, perhaps besides yacc? ;-) |
| 23:01:03 | ssolie | don't build an xml parser.. that has been done to death; I suggest using an existing lib and building with it |
| 23:01:22 | zerohero | iksemel? :) |
| 23:01:25 | ssolie | and parsing xml is non-trivial btw if you fully support xml |
| 23:01:48 | ssolie | sounds like your input files are rather simple though |
| 23:02:25 | wegster | ssolie, nod, not going to build a new xml parser, sorry, meant something useful in building a code generator |
| 23:02:46 | wegster | yes, input files are limited, they're xml but not extensible beyond a certain point. |
| 23:02:56 | ssolie | ah, python again has solutions we use.. cheetah I believe it is called |
| 23:03:03 | wegster | zerohero, wtf is that? |
| 23:03:14 | wegster | cheetah? Hmm, never heard of that one..? |
| 23:03:19 | zerohero | wegster: jabber's xml parsing library :) |
| 23:03:31 | ssolie | we use it to generate c++ code but it can be used to gen anything |
| 23:04:00 | ssolie | http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/ |
| 23:04:03 | wegster | ssolie sweet, that may well be worth looking at |
| 23:04:41 | ssolie | we use python for a lot of similar jobs now |
| 23:05:04 | ssolie | python plus libs of course :) |
| 23:05:17 | wegster | ssolie, hrm it _must_ do html input or not? |
| 23:05:23 | wegster | nod, sure. |
| 23:05:46 | wegster | hang on, looking at their example that may be their output file, one sec |
| 23:21:22 | ssolie | ttfn |
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| 23:23:25 | zerohero | wegster: btw, what's your take on the fact troika doesn't list any sound on their page atm? |
| 23:27:51 | wegster | what happened to 'kros' or whatever? |
| 23:28:06 | wegster | I'd say it's likely it means they couldn't find a replacement chip and may or may not have done so yet |
| 23:28:34 | zerohero | "kryptos" |
| 23:28:50 | zerohero | doesn't sound as a soundchip to me :) |
| 23:29:16 | zerohero | not having a sound chip by this time shouldn't be an option really |
| 23:29:22 | zerohero | but maybe it is :( |
| 23:30:18 | wegster | heh no kidding. |
| 23:30:28 | wegster | more bad move by troika 'advertising' imo |
| 23:30:37 | wegster | I googled it before, came up blank |
| 23:31:24 | zerohero | yeah, does sound like cryptic whatever |
| 23:31:56 | zerohero | but i would want to know what happened to those two runs they were supposed to have before x-mas 2005 |
| 23:32:28 | zerohero | they don't post anymore either, do they? |
| 23:32:44 | zerohero | haven't seen them in a while now, not even "interesting" |
| 23:32:53 | wegster | naah they ignore everyone for the most part, never any real info, no clarifications, etc. Sucky 'business' IMO. |
| 23:33:37 | zerohero | uhm, you were never this direct before, having a bad day? ;) |
| 23:34:31 | wegster | lol naah, tired of much BS, little info etc etc, like most are, and semi-annoyed they do nothing that could clarify things for all. |
| 23:34:38 | wegster | even without giving 'full info' etc. |
| 23:34:56 | zerohero | full info isn't so bad :) |
| 23:35:26 | wegster | nod, but 'more info/clarity' even withough 'full info' would still be better than this. |
| 23:35:37 | wegster | so much for learning from eyetech. |
| 23:35:42 | zerohero | hehe |
| 23:36:07 | zerohero | "business school for amigans" |
| 23:37:49 | wegster | rofl, seems it's needed, no? |
| 23:38:05 | zerohero | we have it already, it's a big success ;) |
| 23:38:29 | zerohero | not sure how it started, but i'm sure boxer were there :P |
| 23:39:28 | wegster | lol uh huh |
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