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| 00:53:01 | Chain|Q | hey |
| 00:53:53 | wegster | hey Chain|Q how goes it? |
| 00:55:36 | Chain|Q | could be better. :) lack of time for coding. maybe on the weekend. or not. |
| 00:55:57 | wegster | heh know the feeling but it's called work, blech. |
| 00:59:16 | Chain|Q | yeah |
| 01:01:24 | zerohero | work? what's that? |
| 01:02:24 | wegster | zerohero, blech. That's all ya need to know ;-) |
| 01:07:44 | Chain|Q | well, work... the company i work for (consultronics) is just bought by another company (exfo). so we are under training about how things work inside exfo. |
| 01:08:03 | Chain|Q | countless meetings, presentations, brainstorming sessions, and whatnot. |
| 01:08:09 | Chain|Q | i _HATE_ it. |
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| 01:10:42 | wegster | ugh guh guh, been there, it sucked |
| 01:10:54 | wegster | are your project(s) still alive? |
| 01:11:04 | Chain|Q | sure, no problem with that |
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| 01:11:26 | Chain|Q | we've got our unique products + customers, which exfo want to keep, and even expand. |
| 01:11:52 | wegster | so no dead project for you then at least? |
| 01:12:02 | Chain|Q | and that's why we want to work instead of all the big nonsense happening |
| 01:12:15 | Chain|Q | no, surely not |
| 01:12:20 | wegster | GOOD. |
| 01:12:21 | Chain|Q | i think we'll even get new projects |
| 01:12:35 | wegster | more good. is the new company local or elsewhere? |
| 01:12:45 | Chain|Q | well, "local" |
| 01:12:50 | Chain|Q | both companies are canadian |
| 01:12:56 | Chain|Q | i mean both consultronics, and exfo |
| 01:13:05 | wegster | merging offices or no? Or close enough to meet in same location? |
| 01:13:26 | Chain|Q | but we were consultronics' hungarian part till now |
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| 01:13:33 | Chain|Q | now we're going to be exfo hungary probably |
| 01:13:42 | Chain|Q | because exfo wasn't here until now. |
| 01:13:46 | Chain|Q | (no hungarian office or stg) |
| 01:13:53 | Chain|Q | so everything stays the same |
| 01:13:59 | Chain|Q | just we replace the name table on the door |
| 01:14:11 | Chain|Q | that's why i really don't get what's all this mumbo-jumbo all about |
| 01:14:25 | wegster | nod, only prob with that if not able to merge into single office is the clicks that get formed on projects, ideal situation is to get some projects dedicated/mostly out of each office, otherwise can be a pita |
| 01:14:34 | Chain|Q | and sometimes i get the impression that even managers don't really know. but they enjoy it, and it seems that's what counts |
| 01:15:21 | Chain|Q | well, it maybe a PITA for the canadian part of the company... but not for us, fortunately |
| 01:15:50 | wegster | naah the PITA part is when meeting invites are 'forgotten' or stuff resolved in one office via walking to someone's desk etc instead of involving group at other site etc. |
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| 01:31:48 | zerohero | jahc! |
| 01:32:00 | jahc | zerohero! |
| 01:35:24 | zerohero | http://zerohero.homeip.net/~zerohero/AWeb.png |
| 01:36:47 | wegster | zerohero++ ?? |
| 01:36:57 | jahc | zerohero: whats in the bottom half of this picture? its taking ages to load |
| 01:37:19 | jahc | oh i see |
| 01:37:21 | zerohero | it's a small app i've made to control aweb, nothing big :P |
| 01:37:25 | wegster | eh, loaded minutes ago here.. |
| 01:37:32 | jahc | that skin looks cool btw |
| 01:37:32 | wegster | zerohero, arexx? |
| 01:37:45 | zerohero | wegster: yup, sends arexx msg's to aweb |
| 01:38:05 | zerohero | the buttons in aweb uses arexx anyway |
| 01:38:16 | wegster | zerohero, damn I was hoping you'd ported khtml secretly and merged into aweb ;-) |
| 01:38:22 | zerohero | lol |
| 01:38:26 | wegster | ahh do they? Didn't know that |
| 01:39:11 | zerohero | gonna add an url string gadget as well |
| 01:39:39 | zerohero | would be cool to have the transferanim in there, but we'll see about that |
| 01:39:45 | jahc | I was expecting tabs |
| 01:40:11 | zerohero | aweb isn't really made for tabs |
| 01:40:24 | | -!- * wegster bites tongue. |
| 01:41:00 | Chain|Q | the main problem about aweb, that it's fubared by design. it's reaction you know... |
| 01:41:02 | | -!- * Chain|Q ducks. |
| 01:41:03 | Chain|Q | :) |
| 01:41:11 | zerohero | hehe |
| 01:42:35 | jahc | how about a tab system similar to golded |
| 01:42:49 | zerohero | how about you all do it yourselves? ;) |
| 01:42:50 | wegster | eh? |
| 01:43:09 | jahc | ged has separate windows for each file.. but each window has a tabs section |
| 01:43:40 | zerohero | that wouldn't be so hard to implement probably |
| 01:44:09 | wegster | jahc nod, ged sorts sucky in that respect, need real tabs. |
| 01:44:29 | jahc | why? |
| 01:44:37 | jahc | on its own screen its not a problem |
| 01:45:33 | wegster | jahc s'ok if maximuzed but is 'odd' when not and they get shifted slightly or move one around etc, odd effect. |
| 01:47:27 | jahc | ok |
| 01:47:36 | jahc | I see where you're coming from now |
| 01:49:52 | wegster | jahc not terrible though, it's a fairly good 'mimic' of real tabs |
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| 06:11:45 | nicomen | yo |
| 06:21:33 | Bitpool | Morning |
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| 16:29:31 | racs | hi there |
| 16:47:30 | racs | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/19/1346237 |
| 16:47:32 | racs | hm |
| 16:47:38 | racs | shoot in the foot? |
| 16:57:12 | wegster | racs, uh oh, I see a BIG mess coming out of that one.. |
| 17:04:31 | racs | wegster: me too, me too... :P |
| 17:05:22 | nicomen | nice |
| 17:05:30 | bones | the worst part of all this DRM nonsense is it imposes unnecessarily restrictions on normal people, while criminals will always find an alternative |
| 17:05:50 | racs | bones: exactly |
| 17:06:04 | wegster | yes, so even something to bypass drm might now need to not use any gpl libs. I smell RMS in this one. |
| 17:06:15 | racs | it will be pain to use, but everybody will find the way to get around it |
| 17:07:27 | nicomen | drm is just smoke and mirrors anyway |
| 17:07:33 | nicomen | there is no such thing as drm |
| 17:08:50 | wegster | drm - lol, and the ecnryption from reader to dsiplay device = smoke and mirros how, nico? |
| 17:09:00 | wegster | some of the crap they're coming up with is purely evil |
| 17:09:32 | nicomen | because a) the ones interested in getting around it for criminal purposes get around it easily and b) because whatever you in the end can see or hear you can also re-produce somewhere else |
| 17:10:10 | nicomen | so drm is just a hinder for people using the wrong device or software and in no way a protection of any sort |
| 17:10:38 | nicomen | it's a constructed problem which simply helps in getting more money per customer |
| 17:11:36 | nicomen | a lazy one of course instead of concentrating in making good products or content which would probably lead to more moeny in a long term |
| 17:12:02 | racs | they are concentrating on get rid of the possibility of making digital copy of the media |
| 17:12:27 | racs | and they are going as far as possible to ensure this |
| 17:12:30 | nicomen | sure, but since you ultimately can view or hear the media, you can also copy it |
| 17:12:35 | wegster | nicomen, sure it is (means to get more $), and worse, is being driven by M$ as well. |
| 17:12:45 | racs | nicomen: yep, but not the same quality |
| 17:12:53 | racs | nicomen: just like copying CD to tape |
| 17:13:00 | wegster | nicomen, look at the info on it, that's the reason some are pissed, it would effectively make ALL of our media readers AND dsiplays/LCDs obsolete. |
| 17:13:01 | nicomen | racs: exactly the same quality that you as a user can watch/hear it |
| 17:13:06 | racs | nicomen: it is a copy, but a different quality |
| 17:13:44 | nicomen | wegster: I know the worst case is that even the devices have it incorporated and not just software, but then too, specially the ones wanting to profit from it can record whatever is presented to the user |
| 17:13:47 | racs | nicomen: only with some kind of hardware tapping or similar |
| 17:13:51 | wegster | nicomen, without the 'encyption tunnel' to end device, you get essentially SD content vs HD |
| 17:14:17 | nicomen | but still if their point is to avoid piracy, then the point is moot |
| 17:14:22 | bones | I'm paraphrasing here, but I heard someone say that trying to make digital content not copyable is like trying to make water not wet |
| 17:14:30 | racs | nicomen: as always |
| 17:14:31 | nicomen | bones: good analogy ;) |
| 17:14:48 | racs | IMO people would pay for content, if it would be cheap enough |
| 17:14:54 | racs | not worth to copy |
| 17:15:02 | nicomen | racs: not only cheap, but available |
| 17:15:06 | wegster | nicomen, nod, it can be worked around, perhaps an ID will be used like smartcards for each device that can eventually be hacked, btu it becomes painful to do so when it's hardware and not s/w based. |
| 17:15:19 | racs | nicomen: yep, both can be solved via net distribution |
| 17:15:24 | nicomen | look at apple store, totally turned around the table in regards of their arguments |
| 17:15:27 | racs | Google knows this very well ;) |
| 17:15:34 | racs | they are already started this |
| 17:15:58 | racs | the new iPod increase sales of movies |
| 17:16:03 | racs | and tv shows |
| 17:16:37 | racs | so I bet on some kind of pay-per-view service rather than DRM |
| 17:16:41 | nicomen | someone at government level should recognize that drm doesn't not manage any digital rights, but au contrarie shrinks a legl user's rights and ban all encryption/obfuscation of media |
| 17:17:00 | nicomen | racs: yup |
| 17:17:19 | racs | nicomen: oh, come on... who cares until it increases somehow taxes (and payment into the pockets...) |
| 17:17:19 | nicomen | so in conclusion, gpl doing this is a good move, it forces a lot more people to think twice about drm |
| 17:17:52 | nicomen | racs: cicil rights organizations care, but ok, just use other arguments which has $$ in them |
| 17:18:03 | nicomen | DRM costs society etc.. |
| 17:18:27 | racs | nicomen: well, I rather expect a source of problems out of this GPL3 standpoint |
| 17:18:32 | nicomen | mind you I'm not a fan of GPL in particular as it is |
| 17:18:52 | racs | the future will be HDTV and HDDVD, and thus they cut the way of the GPL programs |
| 17:19:25 | racs | you won't be alloved to manage GPL and DRM SW in one application |
| 17:19:47 | racs | so I guess these SWs will go for alternative licences |
| 17:20:38 | racs | anyway I am not a big fan of GPL |
| 17:20:39 | wegster | nicomen, except govvernemts are clueless and if they pass the drm crap into law, then gpl just fucked everything badly. |
| 17:21:28 | racs | wegster: don't ever trust of a living politician... ;) |
| 17:21:37 | wegster | is already likely an issue for how linux will deal with the 'reader to device' issues, as there still needs to be _some_ software involvement, and if that software requires a 'license fee' for MPAA/RIAA/MS... |
| 17:22:29 | wegster | that's why I really do NOT want HD-DVD to become the standard either, M$ baby, long term way to 'rid the competition' if they're involved in drm standards, they've yet to produce an open standard that's remotely possible outside of windows (TAPI is good example) |
| 17:23:01 | racs | I am pretty sure that MPAA/RIAA won't be understandable with open source SW |
| 17:23:12 | racs | all they see is $$$ signs |
| 17:23:58 | racs | "freakin'" internet already chopped the incomes, next will be the total reorganization of the marketing and distribution |
| 17:24:09 | racs | they are not really keen on doing this |
| 17:25:03 | wegster | exactly, and from MS standpoint, they already push 'windows only' content, look at their 'expansion.' Oops, linux and OS X can't do it? Allabout control of the market. |
| 17:26:11 | racs | that is for sure, the obsession of BillyG from day 1 |
| 17:26:39 | wegster | you got it.. |
| 17:26:50 | wegster | I'm going to be pissed if I 'have to' lose my lcds however. |
| 17:37:56 | racs | wegster: you don't, but you will get the SD content |
| 17:38:48 | wegster | racs, exactly, thus I'll be pissed. |
| 17:39:11 | wegster | although I DID see a reference to an 'HDCP stripper' device in an AV forum I'm on. |
| 17:44:20 | racs | wegster: we gonna circumvent the protection as we know it ;) |
| 17:45:32 | wegster | racs nod, but the question is how, and when, and at what cost? ($ or loss of content?) |
| 17:46:04 | wegster | I agree with nicomen meaning there is no valid point to it, but there are other issues there as well. |
| 17:49:28 | racs | wegster: I am not frightened by DRM, the things are just getting in shape |
| 17:49:50 | racs | when the DVD published everybody was shocked by the CSS |
| 17:49:57 | racs | then came DVD John |
| 17:50:08 | wegster | yeah I know, but looking at the info, this one is...tougher. |
| 17:50:35 | racs | wegster: nah, everything is just takes a bit more time |
| 17:50:58 | racs | million monkeys with million typewriters ;) |
| 17:51:15 | wegster | or $. Until it's implemeted and can dissect it, is hard to say, but I don't believe M$ involvement is going to make it 'easier' |
| 17:51:36 | wegster | lol but think, if it takes a YEAR to break 'simply.'...lost sales, more M$ |
| 18:07:32 | racs | I can live with that |
| 18:07:44 | racs | most of the users will wait for the ultimate solutions anyway |
| 18:08:44 | wegster | naah, most users != devs, power users but unwashed masses, they'll buy M$ instead if OS X doesn't handle, or wait on moving ot linux to try it etc |
| 18:08:59 | wegster | and unwashed masses also = mgmt making decisions, more M$. |
| 18:09:03 | wegster | all...bad. |
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| 18:43:00 | itix | hi |
| 18:43:06 | afxgroup | hi! |
| 18:43:12 | itix | hi andrea |
| 18:44:42 | afxgroup | i'm just putting bourriquet on surceforge... wanna help me?? ;) |
| 18:45:29 | itix | it is broken beyond repair... but i can take a look into it sometimes |
| 18:46:05 | afxgroup | i'm working on it. even if the priority should be gtk.. don't you think? But where is oliver? don't know if he has receivet the glib |
| 18:46:22 | racs | off now |
| 18:46:22 | itix | oliver is busy with kids :P |
| 18:46:25 | racs | bye all |
| 18:46:33 | itix | cu |
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| 18:46:49 | afxgroup | ah.. :) |
| 18:55:57 | itix | please add me to the developers ;) |
| 18:57:24 | afxgroup | wait. i'm submitting it.. and if i read correctly, the project must be accepted first.. |
| 18:57:53 | itix | yep |
| 18:57:59 | itix | takes few days usually |
| 18:58:14 | afxgroup | Your request should be reviewed by SourceForge.net staff in the next two business days.... |
| 18:58:17 | afxgroup | 2 days.... |
| 18:59:13 | itix | could be tomorrow already... |
| 18:59:44 | afxgroup | back to gtk now? |
| 19:01:52 | itix | i'm still stuck with GtkLabel |
| 19:02:54 | afxgroup | which problems |
| 19:03:15 | itix | it is just too boring |
| 19:03:18 | itix | text parsing |
| 19:04:05 | afxgroup | why don't use glib functions? |
| 19:05:42 | itix | does it support parsing? |
| 19:07:11 | itix | i tried to look into pango but it looked too complex for me |
| 19:10:22 | itix | anyway having a break now... too much coding! |
| 19:11:12 | afxgroup | :) true |
| 19:11:18 | afxgroup | do u want a beer? |
| 19:11:26 | afxgroup | or u drink only Vodka?? |
| 19:11:33 | itix | beer is fine |
| 19:12:06 | itix | vodka is for weekends and such |
| 19:12:19 | nicomen | maybe a round in the sauna ;) |
| 19:12:43 | itix | i wish i had my own sauna ;) |
| 19:13:00 | itix | sauna + beer/vodka = perfect |
| 19:13:20 | itix | you couldnt spend your time better |
| 19:13:42 | afxgroup | eheh |
| 19:20:22 | afxgroup | improvements!! improvements!! |
| 19:20:42 | nicomen | I wish I had my own sauna myself |
| 19:22:02 | itix | i can still remember last summer |
| 19:22:08 | itix | sun, sauna, beer, lake |
| 19:22:15 | nicomen | sauna rocks in winter too |
| 19:22:32 | itix | just drop a lake from it |
| 19:22:46 | itix | and the sun :) |
| 19:22:46 | nicomen | when we were on that ski lodge during holidays I really missed a sauna to enter after bathing in the snow naked |
| 19:23:29 | itix | that is sick but i have done that |
| 19:25:20 | nicomen | it's nice, sets your life in perspective |
| 19:25:36 | nicomen | specially after boozing and people telling you you were dancing with a christmas tree |
| 19:26:33 | itix | you could always sit at home and stare at irc client |
| 19:27:17 | wegster | rofl: "nicomen specially after boozing and people telling you you were dancing with a christmas tree" |
| 19:28:42 | nicomen | itix: yeah, but you don't get funny stories to tell like that |
| 19:28:47 | afxgroup | how PROGDIR: can be converted into dirname? only with Lock()? |
| 19:29:29 | itix | Lock() + GetNameFromLock() |
| 19:29:53 | afxgroup | only in this way.. a faster way?? :P |
| 19:30:02 | itix | it is a faster way |
| 19:30:19 | afxgroup | ok..ok.. |
| 19:30:35 | itix | wrap into a function if needed often |
| 19:31:34 | nicomen | hehe |
| 19:31:35 | afxgroup | no, one time.. but however Visual Basic rulez! |
| 19:31:56 | nicomen | why do you need to epand progdir: anyway, but you are doing something wrong :-P |
| 19:32:08 | itix | it is just because there are n+1 functions in the windows api |
| 19:32:09 | afxgroup | put the dirname into a file as string |
| 19:32:15 | afxgroup | PROGDIR: look ugly.. ;) |
| 19:32:41 | afxgroup | itix.. now, tell me.. a function to return the current date in an HUMAN format in C.. VB has NOW() |
| 19:32:49 | nicomen | so if I move the application it doesn't find the files? |
| 19:33:04 | nicomen | what is human readable? |
| 19:33:09 | afxgroup | emule work in this way.. |
| 19:33:36 | afxgroup | why you must move the application!!! the dir hwre you installed it is that!! |
| 19:33:48 | afxgroup | nicomen: 01/01/2006 |
| 19:33:54 | nicomen | afxgroup: because I can ;) |
| 19:34:00 | itix | DateTime() + DateToStr() IIRC |
| 19:34:00 | afxgroup | nicomen: 01/01/2006 10:34:32 |
| 19:34:28 | itix | DateStamp() + DateToStr() IIRC |
| 19:34:29 | nicomen | afxgroup: so is 12/06/2006 in june or december? ;) |
| 19:34:43 | nicomen | btw. the functions itix provide should hopefully localize the date |
| 19:35:07 | wegster | afxgroup, strftime() |
| 19:35:08 | afxgroup | nicomen: Now() know the OS locale.. ;) |
| 19:35:31 | wegster | afxgroup, and VB is evil ;-) |
| 19:37:26 | afxgroup | wegster.. try strftime.. |
| 19:37:34 | afxgroup | but if doen't work.. i'll kill you.. |
| 19:37:57 | itix | my food is ready... eating now |
| 19:38:53 | wegster | lol@afxgroup |
| 19:39:06 | nicomen | haha |
| 19:39:27 | wegster | afxgroup, you need to supply the format you want to strftime, check man pg or google one. |
| 19:40:12 | nicomen | %D is equivalent to ``%m/%d/%y''. yuk |
| 19:46:34 | afxgroup | weg.. are you alive for a miracle.. but ONE instruction (VB) 5 instruction plus 4 variables (C)!!! |
| 19:46:48 | afxgroup | you are |
| 19:48:17 | wegster | afx same can be said about java or python as well as others...so? ;-) |
| 19:50:13 | nicomen | ... |
| 19:50:17 | | -!- * nicomen slaps afxgroup |
| 19:50:34 | nicomen | besides it's not VB, but probably MFC |
| 19:51:03 | afxgroup | so.. VB rulez! |
| 19:51:22 | wegster | afxgroup, rofl, VB blows ass, good for quick prototypes and UI though. |
| 19:51:38 | afxgroup | now.. since c is strange.. is this my function reentrant? |
| 19:51:39 | wegster | 'drag and drop program creation' |
| 19:51:51 | afxgroup | char *Now(const char *format) |
| 19:51:51 | afxgroup | { |
| 19:51:51 | afxgroup | char *s; |
| 19:51:51 | afxgroup | size_t i; |
| 19:51:51 | afxgroup | struct tm tim; |
| 19:51:52 | afxgroup | time_t now; |
| 19:51:54 | afxgroup | s = (char *)malloc(30); |
| 19:51:56 | afxgroup | now = time(NULL); |
| 19:51:58 | afxgroup | tim = *(localtime(&now)); |
| 19:52:00 | afxgroup | i = strftime(&s, 30, format, &tim); |
| 19:52:02 | afxgroup | return s; |
| 19:52:04 | afxgroup | } |
| 19:52:33 | afxgroup | mm.. not &s but s.. |
| 19:52:55 | wegster | err, format is undefined for one.. |
| 19:53:02 | wegster | ahat are you asking, if it's thread-safe? |
| 19:53:08 | afxgroup | mm.. not s but &s |
| 19:53:18 | afxgroup | thread-safe and reentrant.. |
| 19:54:11 | wegster | should be, as you have no static data within it, subsequent calls will allocate new local vaariables. |
| 19:54:17 | nicomen | afxgroup: ok, so maybe VB rules, but it's not available on any operative systems ;( |
| 19:54:54 | wegster | afxgroup, you can still use pointers, but any static data needs to br wrapped in a critical section or 'lock' for MT-safe/thread-safe code. |
| 19:54:58 | nicomen | atari, amiga, morphos, freebsd, netbsd, openbsd, linux, solaris, irix, mac os x, beos, qnx, symphony, skyos, plan9, rhapsody |
| 19:55:07 | afxgroup | nico: i know |
| 19:55:07 | wegster | doh, lemme think re format a sec tho |
| 19:55:09 | nicomen | so I think you are just inventing something called VB |
| 19:55:20 | nicomen | ;) |
| 19:55:23 | wegster | naah, format is const so is ok as well. |
| 19:55:50 | wegster | if format was altered within your function you'd bork yourself. |
| 19:56:10 | wegster | nicomen, well so at least python and java exist on MOST of those ;-) |
| 19:56:30 | nicomen | perl, tcl, lua and ruby too ;) |
| 19:56:53 | wegster | nicomen, perl = bad. Haven't played with lua though- what's it's point? |
| 19:57:27 | nicomen | I won't comment on perl = bad statement |
| 19:57:45 | nicomen | lua is mostly used as an embedded scripting language |
| 19:59:10 | wegster | nicomen, oh hell, right, ssolie ported and discussed a bit |
| 20:04:45 | afxgroup | bbl |
| 20:05:02 | | -!- afxgroup is now known as afxgroup[AW] |
| 22:10:03 | | -!- afxgroup[AW] is now known as afxgroup |
| 22:10:51 | afxgroup | back |
| 22:11:47 | itix | damn |
| 22:11:54 | itix | you broke hours of silence |
| 22:12:02 | zerohero | afxgroup, itix :) |
| 22:12:07 | afxgroup | :D |
| 22:12:50 | afxgroup | beer was fresh.. |
| 22:13:23 | itix | was fresh but too little :( |
| 22:13:36 | afxgroup | tomorrow must work... |
| 22:14:44 | itix | me not, no school tomorrow :) |
| 22:17:45 | afxgroup | ahh.. the school.. |
| 22:20:56 | afxgroup | itix.. |
| 22:21:06 | afxgroup | while(node->sockfd != mysock && node != NULL) node = (struct HostList *)node_next(&node->node); |
| 22:22:05 | itix | hmm |
| 22:22:11 | afxgroup | crash |
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| 22:23:36 | afxgroup | in the while. i have add an if (node && mysock) but is the same |
| 22:23:54 | itix | you should check node != NULL first |
| 22:24:22 | itix | but is node_next(&node->node) instead... |
| 22:24:27 | itix | erm |
| 22:24:31 | itix | but is node_next(&node->node) right? |
| 22:24:41 | itix | use GetSucc() instead... |
| 22:24:46 | afxgroup | it crash in the while |
| 22:24:56 | afxgroup | because i've moved the node = .. |
| 22:25:01 | afxgroup | on next line |
| 22:26:05 | afxgroup | note is not null |
| 22:26:07 | afxgroup | node |
| 22:26:21 | afxgroup | mysock is >0 |
| 22:26:42 | itix | but check is done in wrong order nevertheless |
| 22:27:10 | wegster | rofly too stupid. gregor going off on how new oses should never be made unless something drasitcall new, yet linux was ok somehow to do. |
| 22:27:33 | afxgroup | if (mysock >0 ) |
| 22:27:39 | afxgroup | if (node != null) |
| 22:27:44 | afxgroup | while ... |
| 22:28:00 | afxgroup | this is the order |
| 22:28:37 | itix | ok |
| 22:29:01 | itix | but mysock could be 0 too? since it is valid sock... |
| 22:30:03 | afxgroup | the problem was the while order |
| 22:30:34 | afxgroup | swapped node!=null with node->sockfd |
| 22:31:01 | itix | right |
| 22:32:58 | afxgroup | TONS OF ERRORS IN THIS PROGRAM! |
| 22:33:29 | itix | really? :) |
| 22:33:52 | afxgroup | my god.. never a test... :( |
| 22:34:28 | zerohero | still bourr...? |
| 22:35:32 | itix | i must go to bed |
| 22:35:37 | itix | too much beer today :) |
| 22:35:40 | itix | n8 |
| 22:35:45 | zerohero | night itix :) |
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| 22:36:07 | afxgroup | night... |
| 22:36:09 | afxgroup | :( |
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| 22:51:53 | zerohero | jahc! |
| 22:53:04 | jahc | hi :) |
| 22:53:13 | antique | hi jahc |
| 22:53:43 | afxgroup | night guys |
| 22:53:49 | afxgroup | need to sleep a little bit.. |
| 22:53:53 | zerohero | night andrea |
| 22:53:59 | afxgroup | see you tomorrow |
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| 22:56:55 | aldur | woo woo |
| 22:57:12 | aldur | hi guys what version SQ-lite are we running |
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| 22:58:51 | antique | hmm |
| 22:58:54 | aldur | hi |
| 22:59:12 | aldur | do you happen to knwo what version of SQL-lite amiga OS4 runs |
| 22:59:54 | zerohero | i don't think it exists on os4 yet |
| 23:01:21 | antique | whats sql? |
| 23:02:23 | aldur | sql database for os4 |
| 23:03:00 | antique | zerohero: i've got a weird problem. :( |
| 23:03:13 | wegster | aldur, not sure there ARE any sql compliant dbs for os4 currently..? |
| 23:03:24 | zerohero | antique: i have no sql knowledge, sorry |
| 23:04:02 | antique | its not about that,as usual its C. hehe |
| 23:04:31 | zerohero | hehe |
| 23:04:48 | wegster | antique, sql = structured query language, an ANSI standard language for database actions etc..for table creation, update, deletion, inserts etc |
| 23:06:41 | zerohero |
